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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;satootoko, post: 121155, member: 669&quot;]<img src="http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/schilder/142.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> to CoinTalk gaspode.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think you&#039;ll find this to be a very friendly place, where we don&#039;t yell at anybody. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Since it was both a Bishopric and a Free City at various times, and at least some of the Bishops were concurrently Dukes of multiple German States, there are several coats of arms that can be identified with Lubeck.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your friend&#039;s coin is a silver Thaler of 32 Schilling, and probably one of the varieties of the one identified as KM#38 or Davenport #5447 in the 17th Century Standard Catalog of World Coins.&nbsp; The reverse matches exactly, but St. John&#039;s robes on the obverse are more like those on KM#36/Dav.#5446.&nbsp; Both were struck under Mintmaster Statius Weissel, who probably still had his dies from the earlier 1610-1612 design when he struck the later design from 1612-1616.&nbsp; (Another mintmaster continued that issue until 1619.)</p><p><br /></p><p>The values given in my 1999 2d Ed. are basically the same for both issues, although to a specialist in early German State coinage the mixed-die variety might be considered more valuable.&nbsp; I don&#039;t collect anything from that period, so I have no idea where prices have gone since 1999, but as listed then the coin was valued at $65 VG, $125 F, $225 VF, and $375 XF.&nbsp; My non-expert opinion of your friend&#039;s piece is in the Fine to Very Fine range.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finding an early 17th Century German State coin in Sweden is certainly consistent with the history of those times.&nbsp; A nice find, indeed.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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