Kisatchie die variety? What on Earth...?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by -jeffB, May 2, 2015.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    At this point, it's been about a month. I got those first two a few days apart, and while the local change machines are now flooded with Kisatchie quarters -- I must've gone through close to a roll of them by now just in change from Kroger -- I haven't found any more of this variety.

    At this point, I can't resist the temptation to page @mikediamond to the thread. Is this something that's worth pursuing for variety recognition? If so, how do I go about it? I was pretty sure it was a die issue, not PMD, and having two identical specimens certainly reinforces that. I've been hearing about doubling errors on the Homestead quarters all over the place, but nothing on these yet. Am I the only one who's found them? Or just the only one who cares?
     
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  3. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    I work at a bank and see tons of quarters. Have been looking for your variety and haven't seen any. Maybe you got something good...
     
  4. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    P or D mint ?
     
  5. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

  6. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Pretty cool! Anyone but me see "E PL" un the offending area?
     
  7. davidh

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  8. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Yes it would, and it does produce identical errors. The gritty paste clings to the die face and remains intact through several strikes at least. The gritty paste is confined to the field because only the field picks up the material as it's dragged across the die face. Please read the article I linked to.
     
  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Thanks very much for the article link. The phenomenon you describe there certainly resembles what I'm seeing on these coins, but the field disturbances appear distinctly in relief, not incuse, making me think that it reflects damage already done to the die. It could be, though, that the disturbed area as a whole is incuse, with some areas inside it standing out in relief.

    I'm going to see if I can get some better images with strongly oblique lighting. Time to find the extension rings...
     
  10. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It would not be surprising if the field-restricted struck-through error coincided with die scrapes travelling in the same direction. That's the case with one of the coins featured in the article. If this is what's going on with your coin, then you'll have a mixture of raised and incuse lines/streaks.
     
  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    If my technique's up to it, I'm going to get identical photos of the two coins and do an image subtraction to pull up differences between the two. I'd expect die gouges to be identical, but struck-through areas might have at least some variation. I'll follow up here after I give it a shot.
     
  12. redcent230

    redcent230 Well-Known Member

    It seems like more and more error or varieties coming out from the "P" mint. Somebody over there need to do a better job in taking care of them coins. But of course then there will not be much varieties anymore.
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Sorry, missed this earlier. They're P.
     
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