Kisatchie die variety? What on Earth...?

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  1. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Those same lines are in front of the bird also, so I wonder if it is like a lamination issue before the strike since it doesn't affect the bird.
     
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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    It doesn't really look like other lamination examples I've seen, other than maybe that one blotch in the middle of the disturbed area. In-hand I don't see anything that looks like peeling layers.

    If it weren't an issue on the die, I can't understand how we would be getting all these raised features in the field, the area that gets pressed most by the die.
     
  4. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    I opened two of the rolls. I don't see any obvious errors.
    Just MS-69.5 +* quarters :eek:


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  5. Great find. Put it up on eBay as the rare "Turkey Trot" error, and you will make a nice profit...lol. TC
     
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  6. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    I was thinking maybe a lamination peel on the working die. I can't think of any other way this could happen. But I am not an error expert so I can't speak real intelligently about the process.
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Nice find.........:)
     
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  8. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I agree nice find!!!
    I hope you can get it graded and re post what Tpg detailed it.
    :)
     
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  9. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    The more errors, the merrier!
     
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  10. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Unless it was created from some crazy heavy die polish, like from 60 grit sandpaper :)
     
  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Some of those blobs look more like 40-grit to me...

    Not sure I'm even willing to throw $10 to ANACS for this one. If it had a chance of being the discovery piece for a major variety, sure, but that doesn't seem likely. Besides, it's already pretty beat up -- check those clipped feathers at the top, and the hits around the outer raised ring.
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I would say most likely die abrasion from the feed fingers, but I'm not sure they still use feed fingers any more with horizontal striking. Collar abrasion from a rotating collar arrangement?
     
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  13. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Dusting Turkey variety. Cool.
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    So, I got 80 cents in change from self-checkout at the same store tonight, and again, I got three Kisatchie quarters -- and, again, one of them was "dusting" (thanks, @Hommer)! So, not unique; wondering how many sub-25-cent items I could buy at that line before the folks behind me started to riot.

    Seriously, should I be doing something to get these recognized as a variety? I don't remember encountering discussion of other coin types or dates with a similar issue, but I guess that probably just means that nobody cares...
     
  15. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I would get back in line until it or I ran out of money. Since its rare to find something priced for under a quarter anymore it may take a while to get them all. Wouldn't be the first time I've gotten strange looks from people when I asked to buy all their change.
     
  16. drathbun

    drathbun Well-Known Member

    I buy the three coin sets from the mint (yes, I know they're over-priced, don't judge me) and one of them seemed to have the same marks on it. But it was late, and it could have just been a smudge. I will look at it with fresher eyes later this week and see if I can confirm it.
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    "Hah-hah! You pay more than face value for coins!" Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to discussing my March of Dimes set order in the other thread. ;)

    Please do let us know whether what you're seeing looks like what I'm seeing. I was pretty sure that it was die damage, not something that happened to the individual coin, and I'm even more sure now that I've found two. At this point, we can start to think about population size...
     
  18. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    If I were you, I would keep every one you could find. Who knows, it may turn out to be like the 1955 DDO Lincoln cent, where they were only released in a small part of the country.
     
  19. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Everybody this coin will " NEVER " be a variety, error yes, but thats it, most likely a feeder error ...
     
  20. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    I was thinking more like the Wisconsin high leaf and low leaf variety. those still get decent money.
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Well, I searched a mint roll of Philly Kisatchies at the local show this morning, and didn't find any with this characteristic.

    Then I went back to the Kroger self-checkout line where I got the first two, but that machine was dispensing random older quarters today. Oh, well.

    I guess the next logical step is to hit up a few local banks and see if any of them are getting "the new quarters"...
     
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