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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 7860412, member: 57463"]Well... Museums are nice and all and that is the reason that I take a step back from the display to consider the context. I mean, I grew up with museums and took my daughter to them as she grew up. The fact is that museums tell stories and an old newspaper person might say that mostly they just deliver cheesecake and headlines without much body copy below the fold.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Even accepting the questionable origin of the first 1804 Dollar, the later copies made for collectors must remain of dubious historical value. The Russian word is "novodel" for "new made" referring to copies and replicas, often in the wrong metals, that 19th century nobles had the Imperial mint make for their collections.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, it seems that our passions run to fakes, frauds, and forgeries. Everyone loves a rogue.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well, it was said once upon a time that for many years the museum curator carefully wiped away the tarnish from the Byron Reed 1804 Dollar and the hairlines earned it an AU Details when it first resurfaced. A few submissions and auctions later, it is now Proof 65.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Right, but see physics-fan3.14 above. Remember that the 1913 V Nickel is also a fraud, not a Mint issue. As for the 1933 Saint Gaudens $20, I suppose the King Farouk coin would be the only original. I know the story behind the others, of course. It remains that the US Mint never intended to release them for circulation. Maybe they belong in the Pollock book as patterns but that's about it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 7860412, member: 57463"]Well... Museums are nice and all and that is the reason that I take a step back from the display to consider the context. I mean, I grew up with museums and took my daughter to them as she grew up. The fact is that museums tell stories and an old newspaper person might say that mostly they just deliver cheesecake and headlines without much body copy below the fold. Even accepting the questionable origin of the first 1804 Dollar, the later copies made for collectors must remain of dubious historical value. The Russian word is "novodel" for "new made" referring to copies and replicas, often in the wrong metals, that 19th century nobles had the Imperial mint make for their collections. Yes, it seems that our passions run to fakes, frauds, and forgeries. Everyone loves a rogue. Well, it was said once upon a time that for many years the museum curator carefully wiped away the tarnish from the Byron Reed 1804 Dollar and the hairlines earned it an AU Details when it first resurfaced. A few submissions and auctions later, it is now Proof 65. Right, but see physics-fan3.14 above. Remember that the 1913 V Nickel is also a fraud, not a Mint issue. As for the 1933 Saint Gaudens $20, I suppose the King Farouk coin would be the only original. I know the story behind the others, of course. It remains that the US Mint never intended to release them for circulation. Maybe they belong in the Pollock book as patterns but that's about it.[/QUOTE]
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