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<p>[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3190886, member: 93416"]Thanks for the thoughts</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, of course! No one is denying that. However, that legend does seem to me to be the best explanation of of etymology of the name "troy". I am happy to listen to alternatives, if you wish to suggest any?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It would seem to be correct to say that Romans, Carolingians and Vikings all used related standards probably deriving from Roman roots. Likewise Mercians (post Offa) and Normans (post William) used standards that probably derived from the Islamic east. Again, I am happy to consider alternative suggestions, when adequately supported.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>To be honest, this claim seems to me a sort of modern myth, not unlike 13th century myths about Merlin and King Arthur. The factual history of weight standards suggests traditions ran very deep indeed. Kings of course controlled the weight of their own coins, but control of the traditional standards was generally beyond their gift - with of course a few obvious exceptions. Its very important here to distinguish fundamental weight standards from mere short term manipulation of coin weight for fiscal reasons - (something that notoriously ran riot under the Anglo Saxons).</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Why do you think he did not? The last two standard works on British/English weight standards were Skinner (1967) and Connor (1987) Connor suggests that William was using Troy, and Skinner that William was using sterling which was itself a simple derivative of troy. Thus both agree with me - essentially - William was using Troy.</p><p><br /></p><p>I recommend both books. Metrology is a fascinating and rewarding subject, and deserves careful study</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob T[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3190886, member: 93416"]Thanks for the thoughts Yes, of course! No one is denying that. However, that legend does seem to me to be the best explanation of of etymology of the name "troy". I am happy to listen to alternatives, if you wish to suggest any? It would seem to be correct to say that Romans, Carolingians and Vikings all used related standards probably deriving from Roman roots. Likewise Mercians (post Offa) and Normans (post William) used standards that probably derived from the Islamic east. Again, I am happy to consider alternative suggestions, when adequately supported. To be honest, this claim seems to me a sort of modern myth, not unlike 13th century myths about Merlin and King Arthur. The factual history of weight standards suggests traditions ran very deep indeed. Kings of course controlled the weight of their own coins, but control of the traditional standards was generally beyond their gift - with of course a few obvious exceptions. Its very important here to distinguish fundamental weight standards from mere short term manipulation of coin weight for fiscal reasons - (something that notoriously ran riot under the Anglo Saxons). Why do you think he did not? The last two standard works on British/English weight standards were Skinner (1967) and Connor (1987) Connor suggests that William was using Troy, and Skinner that William was using sterling which was itself a simple derivative of troy. Thus both agree with me - essentially - William was using Troy. I recommend both books. Metrology is a fascinating and rewarding subject, and deserves careful study Rob T[/QUOTE]
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