Kind of confused about my new coin

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by thepersonman, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. thepersonman

    thepersonman collecter of coins

    I recently acquired an AU 1899 liberty nickel. Then upon some closer examination I noticed that each star had its own little area of darker toning around it and so did the face. Is this a normal occurance or something else? I'm sorry if the pictures turned out not so great, I was using my phone with a loupe on the camera.
     

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  3. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    That looks like natural toning to me. The nooks and crannies tend to gather more gunk and I would expect there to be more reaction with the metal in those areas.

    I will let the pros get more detailed (or correct me if I'm wrong) but my guess is that it would be expected on an AU coin. And it's very pretty!
     
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  4. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I like it. Not too dark so it adds to the coin.
     
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  5. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Nothing to worry about there, looks very nice.
     
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  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Looks fine to me , as the areas around the devices are usually the 1st area to tone .
     
  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Sort of looks like a copper wash nickel. Can you give us a shot without the scope? What's that curl above the head? And a good shot of the date could be a rpd
     
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Not to worry..........
     
  9. thepersonman

    thepersonman collecter of coins

    No it is not copper wash. Doubtful its an rpd and I don't about a curl. Here are some pics. The photos turn out too blurry without a scope. IMG_20150715_195044464_HDR (1).jpg IMG_20150715_195055302.jpg
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Again, not to worry.......
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    It's an 1899/8 a 36A.1 the initial logo punch was dated 18 98 then repunched an 1899. The lower loop of the 8 can be seen on the lower loop of the 9. A Breen 2564 variety type OVD R-7 cross reference FS#5c-014.5
    BTW it's a late die state of this variety
     
  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Also there's a clash between stars 8 and 9 at the top of the head.



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  13. thepersonman

    thepersonman collecter of coins

    I do not see the die clash.
     
  14. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Wrong answer
     
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  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    edited - be nice
     
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  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    sorry, but I see cleaned, and AT
     
  17. thepersonman

    thepersonman collecter of coins

    Thank you to everyone for their input.
     
  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's cleaned and RT (Re-Toned ;)).
     
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  19. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    I don't see die clash, or the RPD...but that could be the pics...its hard to take a good pic of a coin with a phone camera..let alone with a loupe and cell phone...LOL!

    Its hard to tell on the toning as well...that toning could be natural, but you can only make that assessment if you can determine if the coin's been cleaned and personally I can't tell from the pics. Its not uncommon for coins like this to have been cleaned back before cleaning was a bad thing. The toning could be caused by that cleaning.
     
  20. thepersonman

    thepersonman collecter of coins

    Does that heavily detract from the coins value?
     
  21. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It would be more valuable if it wasn't cleaned. It might not "grade" for it, that's the thing. "Cleaning," though, is collectable. Don't let anyone tell you different. It's a matter of degree and the effect of the cleaning on the surface. The effect on the surface is irreversible, that's why we don't clean. Ah, that said, some cleaned surfaces are more bouncy that others. Most, however, are just plumb dead, the cleaning sucked the life out of the coin.
     
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