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<p>[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 134807, member: 4350"]Stop blowing smoke over the facts. In the first place, my facts come from the public portions of Ebays websites.</p><p>You can view the bidders on an item by looking at the bid history during an auction. You can search for completed auctions and you can see who the winners are. Their feedback numbers are public on the website,. Ebay could care less if I look at public numbers to form an opinion.</p><p><br /></p><p>Without doing a high school statistics project, something I feel you are fairly capable of, Anyone looking at the above public information would be struck by the vast number of low feedback numbers assigned to many of the buyers of aboncoms stuff.</p><p><br /></p><p>feedback for aboncom is good because very few people file bad feedbacks anymore. People who do are often hit with retaliatory feedbacks from a seller. when a seller has as many sales as aboncom, even 100 negative feedbacks would make very little impact on his feedback rating. If a newbie buys five coins and only has a few feedbacks, leaving aboncom bad feedback on several items can knock a rating down 20% in a heartbeat. Combine that with the fact that until someone other than the buyer, who is more familiar with grading sees the coin(s) , Many of the buyers of SGS slabs don't realize they've been duped until it's too late to file a feedback. I have emails with links to many, many retaliatory feedbacks left by aboncom for others buyers on Ebay.</p><p><br /></p><p>My research has found that aboncom is a top tier seller and that their are at least four sellers(probably more) under him that sell his products, using his pictures. Some of these sellers don't even change the name of aboncom's file before they use the picture. The lame excuse of Stock Photo, is poor when several people claim to have the same coins and then sell them under different names and they turn up under different numbers.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the way, according to Ebay and the ANA, the use of stock photos is NOTallowed in the coin selling section of Ebay.</p><p><br /></p><p>My research is enough to prove a pyramid scheme, fraud, misrepresentation of grades and more. </p><p><br /></p><p>It is all in the hands of the ANA, and Ebay at this point. We'll see where it goes from there. This group of sellers is not very good about covering their tracks.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nobody needs precise statistics to see that a group of sellers are misrepresenting thousands of coins. It would be as if a jeweler were advertising diamonds and selling cut glass. It is not until a reputable jeweler tells the victim that he has cut glass, that the victim knows he's been had. </p><p><br /></p><p>You are all knowingly doing this with coins. One exchange that i have in email and I'll paraphrase, goes something like this.</p><p><br /></p><p>Asking two questions of aboncom on an MS-70 coin being sold on Ebay with major flaws in the picture, went close to this.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've read what an MS-70 grade is supposed to be, how is it that a coin "********" can be labeled as MS-70 when there is an obvoius scratch on it? The answer from aboncom. "It is just something that turned up in the picture" When a follow up question was asked, about the scratch being so obvoius, the answer was close to: "That's not the coin you are bidding on , we send you a different one"</p><p><br /></p><p>What's that, Bait and Switch, admitted to by Deb at aboncom. Warren, It's gonna unravel! Soon.</p><p><br /></p><p>Bill[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 134807, member: 4350"]Stop blowing smoke over the facts. In the first place, my facts come from the public portions of Ebays websites. You can view the bidders on an item by looking at the bid history during an auction. You can search for completed auctions and you can see who the winners are. Their feedback numbers are public on the website,. Ebay could care less if I look at public numbers to form an opinion. Without doing a high school statistics project, something I feel you are fairly capable of, Anyone looking at the above public information would be struck by the vast number of low feedback numbers assigned to many of the buyers of aboncoms stuff. feedback for aboncom is good because very few people file bad feedbacks anymore. People who do are often hit with retaliatory feedbacks from a seller. when a seller has as many sales as aboncom, even 100 negative feedbacks would make very little impact on his feedback rating. If a newbie buys five coins and only has a few feedbacks, leaving aboncom bad feedback on several items can knock a rating down 20% in a heartbeat. Combine that with the fact that until someone other than the buyer, who is more familiar with grading sees the coin(s) , Many of the buyers of SGS slabs don't realize they've been duped until it's too late to file a feedback. I have emails with links to many, many retaliatory feedbacks left by aboncom for others buyers on Ebay. My research has found that aboncom is a top tier seller and that their are at least four sellers(probably more) under him that sell his products, using his pictures. Some of these sellers don't even change the name of aboncom's file before they use the picture. The lame excuse of Stock Photo, is poor when several people claim to have the same coins and then sell them under different names and they turn up under different numbers. By the way, according to Ebay and the ANA, the use of stock photos is NOTallowed in the coin selling section of Ebay. My research is enough to prove a pyramid scheme, fraud, misrepresentation of grades and more. It is all in the hands of the ANA, and Ebay at this point. We'll see where it goes from there. This group of sellers is not very good about covering their tracks. Nobody needs precise statistics to see that a group of sellers are misrepresenting thousands of coins. It would be as if a jeweler were advertising diamonds and selling cut glass. It is not until a reputable jeweler tells the victim that he has cut glass, that the victim knows he's been had. You are all knowingly doing this with coins. One exchange that i have in email and I'll paraphrase, goes something like this. Asking two questions of aboncom on an MS-70 coin being sold on Ebay with major flaws in the picture, went close to this. I've read what an MS-70 grade is supposed to be, how is it that a coin "********" can be labeled as MS-70 when there is an obvoius scratch on it? The answer from aboncom. "It is just something that turned up in the picture" When a follow up question was asked, about the scratch being so obvoius, the answer was close to: "That's not the coin you are bidding on , we send you a different one" What's that, Bait and Switch, admitted to by Deb at aboncom. Warren, It's gonna unravel! Soon. Bill[/QUOTE]
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