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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;The_Cave_Troll, post: 132879, member: 1674&quot;]Welcome to the forum Steve (aka Stevesgiftshoppe, Mantone_Mercantile, Zackg0ld, Linda9259)!&nbsp; We hope that you will continue to visit and share your knowledge of coins and learn from our collective experience!&nbsp; I especially thank you for remaining civil with your language, the last couple of times that Aboncom and Pam Donnely (it&#039;s a long story) have visited they have left long profane diatribes behind and I appreciate you being more civil than that.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Actually, Midas has been invited by this forum to share his experiences on the eBay boards in his quest to protect the uninformed from the risk of purchasing SGS graded junk.&nbsp; We continue to want to hear what is going on regarding SGS, including who is peddling the *stuff*, and since the eBay seller Stevesgiftshoppe sells it we want to know about it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Columbus was &quot;informed&quot; that the world is flat, but that didn&#039;t change the fact that the world is in fact round.&nbsp; The owner of SGS/Aboncom can deny the connection all they want but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that they are closely connected.&nbsp; If you would like more information on the connection please view the latter half of <a href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=15127" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=15127" rel="nofollow">this thread</a>.&nbsp; It outlines the connection between the owners of the SGS and Aboncom domain names.&nbsp; Basically the owner of the SGS domain (Chad Crider) lists his home page as <a href="http://www.abon.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.abon.com" rel="nofollow">www.abon.com</a>.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know how much more clear the connection would have to be for you to admit the connection.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Actually, I haven&#039;t seen anything nasty from Midas yet.&nbsp; I have seen some posts where he makes the connection between Aboncom and SGS and a few where he has pointed out sellers who are selling SGS slabs, but that is all fact, and it is in no way nasty.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I searched your listings and you haven&#039;t offered a single PCGS/NGC coin in the last 3 months.&nbsp; During that same period of time you sold numerous SGS coins, so it seems clear to me that this statement was meant to make it look like you just sell the coins you have regardless of slab, but that isn&#039;t the case at all.&nbsp; In fact you sell SGS coins exclusively (during my search timeframe).</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Midas is a respected member of our community and is also a respected member of the numismatic community.&nbsp; He has earned a lot of leeway with us over the years, with his constant willingness to share his wisdom and his desire to protect new collectors from the dregs of the numismatic community (like SGS, et al.)&nbsp; I think he is doing an invaluable service, I hope he continues to provide that service.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Nope, that is a perfect analogy.&nbsp; Sellers of SGS slabs are damaging the numismatic community whether they are the ones creating the slabs or just selling them to those who are unaware!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Steve,&nbsp; you now know why we (the numismatic community) dislike SGS/Aboncom.&nbsp; If you are an independent entity then please stop selling this garbage!&nbsp; This is the best way to keep the SGS stink off of your business!&nbsp; If you don&#039;t stop we are left with only 2 possible conclusions: 1)You are is conspiracy with SGS/Aboncom to defraud coin collectors or 2) You don&#039;t care that you are selling overgraded garbage to the ignorant.&nbsp; Neither conclusion paints wou in a particularly nice light, so please stop associating your business with them and by all means please stop defending these rascals.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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