Key-date Roosevelts??

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by SteveMS70, Sep 4, 2008.

  1. SteveMS70

    SteveMS70 New Member

    I knew it! I really enjoy seeing all your coins. Can't say I'm not jealous, as I am. I like that '81-D. What a lovely color
     
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  3. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    And don't rush on this set.
    Make sure you get what you want.
    Don't settle for just "okay".
    There's plenty of them out there, and they are not expensive.

    But keep your finger on their pulse.
    The design is 62 years old. Ripe for replacement.
    As soon as some Gov't official even mentions redesign there will be a big rush.
     
  4. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I like the green one. How can I make one of those?
     
  5. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Time and some tissue paper, but mostly lots and lots of time
     
  6. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    I picked up a bu set in an old "library of coins" album quite a few years back ($50). Those library of coins albums cause really attractive toning. That was a great deal even at the time.
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    So much for the distinction between NT and AT, then, huh? Unless, I guess...do they have "natural" tissue paper? :D

    Honestly...a distinction I always thought was rather thin, anyway...
     
  8. SteveMS70

    SteveMS70 New Member

    Ok, can someone explain this tissue paper thing to me???
     
  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    For the record. I did not doctor this coin. I simply purchased it. Therefore I have no knowledge of how the doctor got it to look like this. But from a purely devils advocate standpoint, if this coin was wrapped in a tissue and tucked away for a few years and resulted in an emerald green beauty, I would not classify that as AT. Rather, it was simply improper storage. The same argument can be made about certain coin holders. We know that Wayte Raymond holders and time can result in rainbow toning. If you know this and intentionally place coins in them for years to achieve toning. Did you just artificially tone the coin? I say no. What say you?
     
  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I say I'm with you, pal. The distinction's tenuous. It's arbitrary. It's capricious. And besides that, it don't matter none to me no-how. ;)
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I like that blue! But, that MS67 1949-S in the NGC holder looks really nice too. It looks like there is a more subtle blue color to it...and I like that. I'd love to see a closer pic of it if you have the time.
     
  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Sure thing Richie, If you look closely you can see blushes of violet intermingled with the mottled cobalt blue.

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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No matter what you do or how you store your coins, the way that toning ends up looking is nothing but an accident. In other words, you never know how it will turn out until it has happened - there are just too many variables. And by then, you either like it or you don't.

    This is an example of what storage in tissue paper can do under certain conditions.
     

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  14. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    tissue paper and what conditions? there is still hope for my morgans and how many years better not be more than 20 :D
     
  15. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Love the 49-S Lehigh!!! I have a PCGS with that same blue color but a mottled brown reverse. What caused the blue color on these early Mint Set coins?
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Nobody but the original owner could ever answer what caused any toning. As I said, it is dependant on too many variables.

    Temperature and changes, humidity and changes, what part of the country you live in, what factories or businesses are in your town, the type of heat you use in your home, the type of cooling you use in your home, how you store the coins, do you or any other ever smoke in your home and how much, the type of cooking you do and do you use gas or electric, the prevailing winds and where they come from, lighting, even how your home is situated N S E & W, did you ever move while owning the coins -

    - any and all of these things change the way a coin tones. Any minute changes in any one of these things, or all of them, change the way a coin tones. Toning cannot be predicted nor can it be reproduced.
     
  17. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    understood Doug, however when you see a particular type of toning on many coins from many different places of origin that display the same type of toning, one would ask if the original packaging may have had something to do with them. This was more the line of my question about the blue toning.

    I can figure out that the mottled brown toning would come from being exposed to the usual things, but this blue and the blue on my coin are extraordinarily similar and I was inquisitive of that.
     
  18. nugget_hill

    nugget_hill Senior Member

    Nice coin Lehigh96 you do have some ripper toned coins but that's not the reason I'm posting,the reason I'm posting is semi key dates are there semi key dates for the Roosevelt's collection as I've just finished my collection in B.U. and Proof's and I do need to know so If anyone can tell me I'll be most thankful,regards Harry
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    If the coins came from original Mint sets, then yes the packaging often had something to do with it. Those old cardboard holders were well known for causing the coins to tone. But not only blue, pretty much every color of the rainbow was common.

    And I guess that's my point. For if it was just the holders then most of the coins would be the same color. But they aren't, so the other factors play just as big a part.
     
  20. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Thanks for posting that...that is an awesome dime!
     
  21. Pocket Change

    Pocket Change Coin Collector

    LOL! The thread has been hijaacked by the toned crusaders. It's happening more and more Mr. Hill!

    Others have listed the keys. Roosies are a little crazy - I'd say any thing from the beginning 1946 to 1951 and the 1955 pds. Throw in the 1954-S for good measure. Those are the ones that will be more expensive. It's important to note that this is in MS-xx grade. Nothing is really a "key" or "semi-key" in grades under F/VF.
     
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