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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7916765, member: 19463"]How about there was a longer gap between the two types than usually believed. History records battles but tends to ignore coinage. Wikipedia says, "Staters depicting a sea-turtle were struck up to the end of the 5th century BC. During the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Peloponnesian_War" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Peloponnesian_War" rel="nofollow">First Peloponnesian War</a>, by 456 BC, it was replaced by the land <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortoise" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortoise" rel="nofollow">tortoise</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegina#cite_note-12" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegina#cite_note-12" rel="nofollow">[12]</a>" The author has trouble with dates, possibly not realizing that the end of the 5th century BC was 56 years after the date given. What turtles were made between 431 and 404 BC? I say none.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7916765, member: 19463"]How about there was a longer gap between the two types than usually believed. History records battles but tends to ignore coinage. Wikipedia says, "Staters depicting a sea-turtle were struck up to the end of the 5th century BC. During the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Peloponnesian_War']First Peloponnesian War[/URL], by 456 BC, it was replaced by the land [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortoise']tortoise[/URL].[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegina#cite_note-12'][12][/URL]" The author has trouble with dates, possibly not realizing that the end of the 5th century BC was 56 years after the date given. What turtles were made between 431 and 404 BC? I say none.[/QUOTE]
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