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Message:: [QUOTE="The Penny Lady®, post: 683205, member: 16948"]Yes, PeacePeople, that is exactly what I'm saying, that people need to look at the coin, forget what holder they are in, and buy the coin for what it is or what it means to them.  There are certainly buyers who know they are still learning to grade, then I submit that simply buying TPG or CAC coins is still not a substitution for learning to grade on your own.  As PeacePeople said, we all know there are plenty of problem coins in TPG holders.  My whole point - and I'll try and leave it at this for now -  is that waaaaay too much weight and importance is being placed on whether a coin is in a TPG holder, which TPG is better, whether it has a CAC sticker before a buyer even looks at a coin - the most important thing is and much more weight should be placed on the collector NEEDS TO LEARN TO GRADE FIRST and FOREMOST before they go out spending any kind of significant money on coins.*  A TPG graded coin should be completely secondary and more of a "bonus" rather than the first thing a collector looks for in a coin. *I do feel that one of the best ways to learn to grade is looking and studying a lot of coins, so an investment in coins of whatever series you want to learn for this purpose is a good idea and of course he/she will have to rely on someone else's opinion as to the grade of those coins.[/QUOTE]