Just wondering if this is natural toning or artificial toned

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  1. coinman2

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  3. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I'm OK with natural.
    Frankly not particularly attractive or desirable though. Some might say it is close to environmentally damaged. MHO
     
  4. MattinNJ

    MattinNJ New Member

    Looks natural.
     
  5. coinman2

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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Natural but too dark for me.
     
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  7. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Maybe environmental.
    I'm not sure I agree with the grade. Better photos could help.
    If it is environmental then it is likely a details coin.
     
  8. coinman2

    coinman2 Active Member

    I'll get better photos when I get home
     
  9. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Looks natural to me. I suspect the coin looks better in better lighting and is not as dark as it appears.
     
  10. coinman2

    coinman2 Active Member

    Yeah I'll get better pic
     
  11. coinman2

    coinman2 Active Member

    When I get home
     
  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    NT and awful. I really don't understand how a coin with toning that advanced could grade MS63. Personally, that is a problem coin to me, environmental damage.
     
  13. FarmerBill

    FarmerBill Member

    I've got a 1921 that looks a lot like that. It came from my father in law. He kept it in his sock drawer for about 50 years.
     
  14. coinman2

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  15. coinman2

    coinman2 Active Member

    Here are more pictures
     
  16. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Just as I suspected. It’s fine. The toning is natural, and the bad light in the first set of photos made it look too dark.
     
  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Definitely natural toning as I said earlier. These photos show off the coin better but still not good enough for me in this series.
     
  18. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Better photos for sure. Not ED.
    IDK how they grade this a 63. Whatever, they know more than I do.
     
  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Dip it. But you have to know what you’re doing. Most of the good ones are dipped, though, anyway, and grade every day.

    Just as an aside, it’s funny how dipping is accepted, these days, when the fact is, that’s as artificial as can be. But hasten toning, and you’re a crook! Didn’t used to be that way years ago when you had to have brains to collect coins. There were those who could spot a dipped coin in a shop a mile away, and those were bargained down for it. Today, it’s exactly the opposite. We rationalize a “proper” dip as improvement, even though it’s as much unnatural manipulation as can be, while for toning, manipulate that, and you’re run out on a rail. Something don’t seem right about that; somehow...
     
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