Just won this very rare Vespasian

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Orfew, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I saw this in the Numismatik Naumann auction catalogue and knew I wanted it. It is listed in RIC II Part one as R3, one example known. This is not the RIC plate coin but it is (no surprise) a double die match to that coin. My assumption is that this is the second known of its type. It will take an honoured position in my 12 Caesars set.

    I am very excited to have won this coin.:D

    Please post your coins of Vespasian or your extreme rarities.

    VESPASIAN (69-79). Denarius. Ephesus.
    (3.00 g.17 mm.)
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPAS AVG COS III TR P P P.
    Laureate head right.
    Rev: PACI AVGVSTAE.
    Victory advancing right, holding wreath and palm frond; monogram to right.
    RIC² 1425.
    Condition: Very fine.
    Numismatik Naumann Auction 69 Lot 348
    September 2, 2018


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  3. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Nice find and a great looking Ephesian denarius!
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Ditto
     
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  5. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Nice one! Someday I hope an Ephesus Vespasian comes my way...
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Very good price, too, for such a rarity!
     
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  7. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    RIC II, Part I (2007)
    Carradice, I.A. & T.V. Buttrey. The Roman Imperial Coinage, Vol. II, Part 1: From AD 69 to 96. (London, 2007).
    C2: Extremely common
    C: Common
    R: Rare
    R2: Very rare
    R3: Unique [only one in the collections examined]
    That is rare!
     
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  8. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Awesome find!
     
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  9. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    Bought this obscure little bronze from Brian Bucklan quite some time ago. According to his research there are only two or three known and unpublished. It reminds me of the sacred box and staff in my own tradition as well as the angel of annointment(the nike/victory like in the OP coin). perinthoscoinbought.jpg
    Thrace, Perinthos (Perinthus) Pseudo-autonomous Issue; Circa 1st-2nd Century AD
    Ox: PERIN-QEWIN in two lines above basket containing object inside
    Rx: Nike advancing right, object in lower right field
    Some wear but absolutely identifiable with dark patina.( I found one other example of this type but couldn't find any published pieces.) An interesting type. 15.5mm, 2.2gms
     
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  10. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Are we looking at a "Judaea Capta" variant?
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have not seen the new RIC II so I have no idea how they list my common one with Victory left. I was attracted to it by the portrait style - not a pretty boy. It is interestig that the reverse legend also swaps the words so the figure faces PACI.
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  12. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I love that coin Doug. It has tons of character.
     
  13. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    VespPaci.jpg
    IMP CAES VESPAS AVG
    Laureate head of Vespasian right

    PACI AVGVSTAE
    Victory advancing left holding wreath and palm, tilted Φ before her right foot.

    Ephesus mint

    69/70 AD

    3.05g

    RIC 1406 (R ). BMCRE 435. RPC 812 (8 specimens cited).
     
  14. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    @dougsmit

    I looked up your coin. I need @David Atherton to confirm this for me but I do not believe your coin to be common at all. In fact I think it is part of the group 5 denarii for Ephesus. These coins are all very rare.

    David has one like yours in his gallery on Forum. He calls it an unpublished variant of my coin RIC 1425. He refers to it as RIC 1425 var. It is not currently in RIC.
     
  15. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Sorry Al, I do not know.
     
  16. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great coin @Jay GT4 That victory is amazing. I love the style of these denarii of Ephesus.
     
  17. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Congrats on a nice capture !

    And this is my 4000th post at CT :)

    Q
     
  18. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Congrats on 4000 posts.
     
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  19. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    This is correct. Victory facing left dated COS III with BY mint mark is unpublished. I came across it around the time of Ted Buttrey's passing, so this variant has not been added to the Addenda.

    Congrats on your new win Andrew!
     
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  20. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I finally had a chance to take a new photo.
    Vespasian RIC 1425 new.jpg
     
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  21. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Orfew, this photo is an improvement, however, your radial alignment of the obverse could have been better. ;)
     
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