Just purchased a 1900 Lafayette dollar!

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  1. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    great coin
     
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  3. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I don't have to think about it. I am already published on the issue thorugh Random House and vetted. Lafayette was asked to run on the ticket and I'll just repeat that he predated the clause as did Hamilton.


    Ruben
     
  4. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Doug, what was the institution with power to grant citizenship prior to 1789?

    Ruben
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    nice coin, looks a lot better than G-6.
     
  6. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I think you made a great addition to your collection.:thumb:
     
  7. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_4_citizenships3.html

    here is a tibit to start with
     
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Washington asked Lafayette to run with him on the first election and Lafayette, who had spent time with Washington in this period at Mnt Vernon, and who qualified as citizen under NUMEROUS states which granted naturalizations to loyalist soldiers and even Hessian troops who defected to the American cause. Lafayette refused and also turned down requests for naturalizations under New York among other states and returned to France...but continued to be directly involved in American politics and the issue of emancipation in the US.

    If Lafayette accepted he's had been considered a citizen under state law prior to ratification, as was Hamilton and eligible under the current constitution to have run for any office, including the Presidency.

    The founding fathers pleaded with this him but he refused...which was a bad choice on his part because he ended up spending several years as a political prisoner in Europe which Washington again tried to repair, but failed to acquire his freedom. Lafayette and Washington were so bound together that Lafayette named with son "George Washington" Lafayette.

    I know nothing of the St Claire situation and can make no comment.

    Ruben
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ruben, had Lafayette made the choice to become a citizen prior to 1787, then yes he could have been President according to the Constitution. But my point is that he did not choose to become a citizen - thus he could not have been eligible to be President. That's all.

    I do not dispute that it would have been possible had he done things differently, but he did not do them differently. So it was not possible.
     
  10. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I don't think there were any requirements to be VP prior to the 12th amendment, so perhaps he could have qualified for that office. Lafayette might have been somewhat more eligible to run than either McCain or Obama [neither seeming to qualify under current law], but he was also a member of the French nobility which might have caused some difficulties had someone chosen to challenge his eligibility. Precidents were being established at the time so it isn't surprising that some would have considered Lafayette eligible while others may have felt differently.
     
  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    thanks.

    If he took Washington's offer his citizenship would have been considered as if it was granted, when it was essentially authorized in NYS at the end of the Revolution in October 1781.

    This was very important in a nation where more Native Born Americans took arms AGAINST Washington than for him....

    Ruben
     
  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    at the time, everyone ran for President and the second place winner was vice-president ;)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1789
     
  13. Cloudsweeper99

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  14. Isaiah

    Isaiah New Member

    that is what I thought. It looks to be much better than the grade they assigned.
     
  15. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Nice, solid coin. I've seen coins graded G4 and G6 nowhere near as nice as this one.

    Congrats, Isaiah !
     
  16. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    This is my example of the Lafayette Dollar. I bought it raw in the 1980s. I was a little concerned about it being genuine & had it slabbed recently.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
     

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  17. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Thats a great coin. What grade did the TPG give it?
     
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  19. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    More interesting than when all of Congress came to Washington armed because of the violence on the floors.

    Ruben
     
  20. rld14

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    I dunno, ever watch C-Span when they had Cynthia McKinney or especially Mr Traficant was rambling on?
     
  21. mrbrklyn

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