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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by panzerman, Jan 27, 2021.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Kyrenaika/ Kyrene
    AV Obol ND (308-05BC) 7mm 0.69g. EF
    Struck under Magas/ Ptolemaic Satrap 308-277BC
    obv: Horned/ Laureate Head of Ammon Zeus R
    rev: Vertical Thunderbolt between two eight rayed stars
    SNG Copenhagen 1233 BMC 217
    Kyrene Mint
    I missed getting if from Triton XXIV/ sold for $1900+ 20 % fees VF+
    Adams ex: sold for $2500+ 20 & Triton XVIII VF+
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  3. Silphium Addict

    Silphium Addict Supporter! Supporter

    Nice coin!
    This may interest you:

    The best reference for Kyrenaika AV coins is Naville L Les monnaies d'or de la Cyrénaïque de 450 à 250 avant J.-C. Geneva 1951. Hard to find but I have a copy.

    The bad news is your coin is not the BMC 217 (Naville 191) dies.

    The good news is that I think it IS Naville 216
    Here is a picture (sorry for the iPhone photo) and the obverse and rotated reverse from a previous auction
    N216.jpg N216o.jpg
    N216R.jpg
    Naville lists 39 different die combinations (17 obverse dies) for the type. I scan for the obverse horn shape, beard and hair pattern combined with the relation of the star rays with the central thunderbolt. It appears to be an exact match. In addition, the centering and edge bumps (more clear on original plate) match. So, Naville 216 was from Lucien Naville's personal collection. Weight is listed as 0.70 gms, but close enough. What do others think?

    The great news for you is that I did not make this connection in time for the auction.
    Congratulations!
     
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2021
  4. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Wow! Thanks, I learned a lot today. Really amazing that there are so many die combos.....
    John
     
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  5. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Supporter! Supporter

    That's a great pedigree find, congrats!
     
  6. Everett Guy

    Everett Guy Well-Known Member

    Hes got some really nice stuff. Congrats on the purchase.
     
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  7. I_v_a_n

    I_v_a_n Well-Known Member

    I also have a same type obolos :)

    Kyrene AV Obol.jpg
     
  8. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

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