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<p>[QUOTE="e30kgk, post: 1885342, member: 57031"]Of course this is true. However, this thread is discussing small denomination gold coins, so when you state that "Common date gold coins graded as high MS63 will usually sell for spot plus about 10%," it stands to reason that you're making that claim about small denomination gold coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is true. A single transaction doesn't establish value. A $75 dollar coin isn't worth $800 just because someone pays $800 for it. A coin that a significant number of people are willing to pay $800 for is worth $800, though, no matter what the grey sheet says, or what past auction results show, or what the Red Book says, or anything else.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't even know how to argue with you on this point. It's just blatantly false. If "the world is full" of people willing to pay $X for something, it's incontrovertibly worth $X. What, in your opinion, determines how much something is "worth" in a free and open market, if not the willingness of consumers to purchase a good at a certain price?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It absolutely lost value when you cracked it out of a slab. If nothing else, it lost liquidity, which makes it less valuable. There are less people willing to pay top dollar for a raw coin than a graded coin. That doesn't make it a worse coin, that doesn't make it even a less desirable coin, but presented two identical coins at the same price, one raw, one slabbed, the vast majority of buyers will opt for the graded one.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is true for most things. Just because you think value has nothing to do with people's willingness to pay for something, doesn't mean that's the case - because that's a simple fact of basic economics, much like the age of the earth is a simple fact of geology. However, value is not a static matter of fact - the whole premise of value depends on the perception of the consumer.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="e30kgk, post: 1885342, member: 57031"]Of course this is true. However, this thread is discussing small denomination gold coins, so when you state that "Common date gold coins graded as high MS63 will usually sell for spot plus about 10%," it stands to reason that you're making that claim about small denomination gold coins. This is true. A single transaction doesn't establish value. A $75 dollar coin isn't worth $800 just because someone pays $800 for it. A coin that a significant number of people are willing to pay $800 for is worth $800, though, no matter what the grey sheet says, or what past auction results show, or what the Red Book says, or anything else. I don't even know how to argue with you on this point. It's just blatantly false. If "the world is full" of people willing to pay $X for something, it's incontrovertibly worth $X. What, in your opinion, determines how much something is "worth" in a free and open market, if not the willingness of consumers to purchase a good at a certain price? It absolutely lost value when you cracked it out of a slab. If nothing else, it lost liquidity, which makes it less valuable. There are less people willing to pay top dollar for a raw coin than a graded coin. That doesn't make it a worse coin, that doesn't make it even a less desirable coin, but presented two identical coins at the same price, one raw, one slabbed, the vast majority of buyers will opt for the graded one. This is true for most things. Just because you think value has nothing to do with people's willingness to pay for something, doesn't mean that's the case - because that's a simple fact of basic economics, much like the age of the earth is a simple fact of geology. However, value is not a static matter of fact - the whole premise of value depends on the perception of the consumer.[/QUOTE]
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