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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 5400363, member: 110504"]They were both on French ebay, but from established dealers.</p><p><img src="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TbQAAOSw3u5dC35x/s-l1600.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TdQAAOSw7sBdC36P/s-l1600.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>County of Sancerre. Etienne (Stephen) I, 1152-1191. AR denier.</p><p>Obv. Mitred profile to right; star in left field. +IVLIVS CESA.R.</p><p>Rev. +STEPhANVS CON ('COM[ES];' Count.)</p><p>Duplessy 640 variant; cf. 639 for rev. legend. ("[...]CONE;" "N" and "E" ligated.)</p><p><img src="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/x2gAAOSwOVJf4dF1/s-l500.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SNsAAOSwxF5f4dF2/s-l500.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Anonymous issue (...except for Julius), c. 1190-1230.</p><p>Obv. Mitred profile to left; crescent and star in fields. +IVLIVS CES.A.R</p><p>Rev. Cross; star and fleur-de-lis in angles. +SACRVM CESARIS</p><p>Duplessy 647 variant; cf. 646 for punctuation of obverse legend.</p><p>...Etienne I's issues are the only ones of Sancerre, through the beginning of the 14th century, to have been issued in the count's name. The association with Julius Caesar originally struck me (when I had a later example as a kid, in the mid-1970s) as a predictable assertion of baronial autonomy. --Along the lines of a 13th-century motto of the seigneurs of Coucy, following the construction of massive, state-of-the-art castle: 'Neither count, nor duke, nor prince am I; I am the lord of Coucy!'</p><p>But the truth is even better than that. From medieval times, Sancerre was associated (erroneously, to all appearances) with an episode in Caesar's conquest of Gaul. From French Wiki, the name originates from 'a shrine dedicated to Saint Satyrus, an African martyr of the third century [....]. It preserves the name of the African martyr whose remains were allegedly brought there.'</p><p>From here, getting these, attributed but at relatively favorable prices, was a coup. It filled a big hole in my ongoing French feudal endeavors. Both geographically, and in terms of Sancerre's feudal relationship to the counts of Blois and Chartres, and later (formally as of the 12th century) of Champagne. ...It was effectively a comital appanage; the counts of Sancerre were a cadet branch of the same family.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 5400363, member: 110504"]They were both on French ebay, but from established dealers. [IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TbQAAOSw3u5dC35x/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TdQAAOSw7sBdC36P/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG] County of Sancerre. Etienne (Stephen) I, 1152-1191. AR denier. Obv. Mitred profile to right; star in left field. +IVLIVS CESA.R. Rev. +STEPhANVS CON ('COM[ES];' Count.) Duplessy 640 variant; cf. 639 for rev. legend. ("[...]CONE;" "N" and "E" ligated.) [IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/x2gAAOSwOVJf4dF1/s-l500.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SNsAAOSwxF5f4dF2/s-l500.jpg[/IMG] Anonymous issue (...except for Julius), c. 1190-1230. Obv. Mitred profile to left; crescent and star in fields. +IVLIVS CES.A.R Rev. Cross; star and fleur-de-lis in angles. +SACRVM CESARIS Duplessy 647 variant; cf. 646 for punctuation of obverse legend. ...Etienne I's issues are the only ones of Sancerre, through the beginning of the 14th century, to have been issued in the count's name. The association with Julius Caesar originally struck me (when I had a later example as a kid, in the mid-1970s) as a predictable assertion of baronial autonomy. --Along the lines of a 13th-century motto of the seigneurs of Coucy, following the construction of massive, state-of-the-art castle: 'Neither count, nor duke, nor prince am I; I am the lord of Coucy!' But the truth is even better than that. From medieval times, Sancerre was associated (erroneously, to all appearances) with an episode in Caesar's conquest of Gaul. From French Wiki, the name originates from 'a shrine dedicated to Saint Satyrus, an African martyr of the third century [....]. It preserves the name of the African martyr whose remains were allegedly brought there.' From here, getting these, attributed but at relatively favorable prices, was a coup. It filled a big hole in my ongoing French feudal endeavors. Both geographically, and in terms of Sancerre's feudal relationship to the counts of Blois and Chartres, and later (formally as of the 12th century) of Champagne. ...It was effectively a comital appanage; the counts of Sancerre were a cadet branch of the same family.[/QUOTE]
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