Just in case the word is not out on 2021 SE variety

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  1. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Apparently, there is a 2021 Type 2 SE with the obverse of the coins with a Type 1 reverse. This make sense as "Transitional" coins exist in several coin series.

    I have looked at 2021 Type 1 and 2021 Type 2 SE. The obverse is stronger and different (naked eye) on the 2021 Type 1 coins.
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Well, nice to hear it, but I guess I'll never find one.

    Since I didn't buy any.
     
  4. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Can you clarify a bit? Does it have a type 2 reverse with the type 1 obverse? Or type 2 obverse with type 1 reverse?
     
  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Best I can do: Apparently, there is a 2021 Type 2 SE with the old obverse used on the Type one variety.

    A dealer is paying $300 each raw. Have I seen one? No. Is this a scam? I don't know. Probably by tomorrow the word should spread and we'll know for sure.
     
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  6. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I happen to have 3 of each on my desk. now these are the bullion type.
    The type 1 shows no AW on the obverse so maybe there are type 2 with no AW. just a guess. 3 2021 ASE Ty 1 2 x.jpg
     
  7. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    That seems to be correct.

    2021 SE w/o designers initial and old reverse. COMMON
    2021 SE w/initials and new reverse. COMMON

    Claimed New variety?:

    2021 SE w/o designers initials and new reverse.
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That should make it easy to spot. Another easy to see difference is the sun ray through L. On type one it runs through the top of the L and the type 2 it runs through the center of the upright.
     
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  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    There are quite a few differences. The drape under the neck and breast is very different. Still, I await the national press release from the Mint. I think if true, it was done on purpose to use up the dies and provoke excitement at the same time.
     
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  10. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    That's for the heads up, now THAT'S why it's good to keep an Insider around!

    it could be a dealer just placed a bounty on it in case it exists so people would look for it. pretty sure it would be worth more than $300 if one turns up and is authenticated though.

    I dunno, the possibility exists, I thought there might be a transitional error in the Washington crossing quarters with the obverse of the parks but that hasn't turned up.
     
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  11. Insider

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    John Burgess, posted: "That's for the heads up, now THAT'S why it's good to keep an Insider around!"

    Insider is on thin ice. I've been banned from a few forums because I treat members of all coin forms as my "family" and treat them as such. Too many snowflakes in forums cannot take the tough love, disagreements, sarcasm, barbs, and jokes present in my actual family when we get together. :(
     
  12. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    Well that's a shame, I'm just banned from Youtube comments and I might be the reason Yahoo! got rid of the comments also, but that's unconfirmed. :) I've done my best to behave here though. of all the coin sites I like this one the best as far as the people on it so I'd hate to get banned from here.

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  13. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king. Supporter

    The 2008, reverse of 2007, are selling for a nice premium. Hopefully, the 2 tubes that I just got, and will be opening one soon, are these errors, if they exist.

    Side question - Are these ‘seals’ now put on at the Mint, or is this just something JM Bullion did?

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  14. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    4 obverse and 2 reverses :0
     
  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I don't get to open the boxes anymore but I've seen the seals. My guess is they are from the Mint. They come split in unopened monster boxes that have been knocked around.
     
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  16. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    UPDATE: So many tubes are broken that some customers only want sealed tubes.
    IMO, there is going to be a premium on sealed tubes. ;)
     
  17. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    like packs of baseball cards
     
  18. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I heard that one company would put coins in tubes, seal the tubes, and place a grade on the unopened tube. :jawdrop:

    :D What a great marketing tool to sell :greedy::greedy::greedy: stuff. BTW, once the roll was opened all guarantees no longer applied. :D

    Heck who needs the actual tube. Issue a slip of paper with the grade of the virtual tube the customer paid for. How come no one has bought a great coin like a 1913 Liberty nickel and sold shares in the coin? I'm in the wrong end of the coin business. ;)
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I have seen such tubes in the past from PCGS, NGC and ANACS. I don't recall if ICG has ever done it.
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Sorry double post
     
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