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<p>[QUOTE="EyeEatWheaties, post: 1163168, member: 26972"]This is a favorite subject for me. I hope that some coin image standards are soon accepted or practiced or suggested . As DSLR's come down in price and files get larger, computers get faster. we will see more threads like this one. </p><p><br /></p><p>Please keep in mind that I am a newbie collector, but I learn super fast and question things that don't make sense to me. <b>This post will entirely be my opinion and should be valued at what you are paying for it. or a grain of salt, something to think about, or the gospel. take your choice <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </b></p><p><br /></p><p>BTW- first! I am stoked that you are shooting from your computer! Yes! That is awesome!</p><p><br /></p><p>Okay for sake of discussion/clarity, lets stay in the MS 63-68 category without including color for now.. </p><p><br /></p><p>IMO Imaging/portrayal of a Certified coin should be directly tied to the grade. In other words..... Numerical Grades are determined by: Nicks and dings, luster, strike strength and the overall opinion of eye appeal.</p><p><br /></p><p>I found this on the popular easy to read aboutcoins.com website</p><p><br /></p><p><b>(MS-63)</b> - Uncirculated, but with contact marks and nicks, slightly impaired luster, overall basically appealing appearance. Strike is average to weak.</p><p><b>(MS-65)</b> - Uncirculated with strong luster, very few contact marks, excellent eye appeal. Strike is above average.</p><p><b>(MS-68)</b> - Uncirculated with perfect luster, no visible contact marks to the naked eye, exceptional eye appeal. Strike is sharp and attractive.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The problem presents itself when each of those grading criteria are not weighted equally. However as you get higher in the MS scale, certain characteristics, again IMO! should stand out.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let me put it this way. A MS66 and up coin is highly lusterous in hand. To shoot a lusterous coin in diffused/muted/matte portrayal is an insult to the coin! lol. Harshly, I feel it misrepresents one of the main attributes that gave the coin it's grade. </p><p><br /></p><p>Shooting diffused also tends to hide nicks and dings. On the other hand, heavily contrasted images shot with direct single/dual lighting will grossly exaggerate nicks and dings and may not be pleasant to look at 20x+ on a monitor.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now with that said, the artistry of what the image is to be used for is going to be/should be considered. How does the owner of the coin want others to see the coin? IMO finding a balance of the main 4 grading criteria. marks, luster, details and eye appeal is the ideal image for MS coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the OP's image.... The coin should have "hot spots" IMO the coin is reflective in hand, is it not? Contrast, the image is excellent however it to me again, seems lifeless for a 66, nothing jumps at me on first glance. High grade coins are obvious in hand. Shoot in a way that makes your images of high grade coins attention getting!?</p><p><br /></p><p>Iekgwin - has been posting some gorgeous images lately here on CT. He scales his images down from their original size and there is nothing wrong with that at all! He knows that many will interpret the high resolution image unfairly. errrrrr.. off on a tangent..... resolution is a separate subject.</p><p><br /></p><p>Okay. Lastly. These big Auction house p me off! They have the wherefore all to shoot coins exactly the same way each time. they can white balance. OR do they know this and purposely post high resolution images that are more artsy than technically correct?</p><p><br /></p><p>If I see one more 67RD copper coin that looks to have a modern satin finish on it I am going to scream! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> lol </p><p><br /></p><p>I have posted this a couple times - it is also in more detail on the front page in a thread by lehigh ( i miss his posts btw) </p><p><br /></p><p>I think Heritage images look nicer, but mine are much more accurate even though the the contrast (shadowing) is exaggerated from the use of direct lighting. I wanted to capture the luster of this 67RD coin first.</p><p><br /></p><p>Heritage:</p><p><img src="http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/f417030c.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Mine:</p><p><img src="http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/fb7bf3a5.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Direct and blunt comments/counterpoints etc (or support) about my above opinions are encouraged!</b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EyeEatWheaties, post: 1163168, member: 26972"]This is a favorite subject for me. I hope that some coin image standards are soon accepted or practiced or suggested . As DSLR's come down in price and files get larger, computers get faster. we will see more threads like this one. Please keep in mind that I am a newbie collector, but I learn super fast and question things that don't make sense to me. [B]This post will entirely be my opinion and should be valued at what you are paying for it. or a grain of salt, something to think about, or the gospel. take your choice :) [/B] BTW- first! I am stoked that you are shooting from your computer! Yes! That is awesome! Okay for sake of discussion/clarity, lets stay in the MS 63-68 category without including color for now.. IMO Imaging/portrayal of a Certified coin should be directly tied to the grade. In other words..... Numerical Grades are determined by: Nicks and dings, luster, strike strength and the overall opinion of eye appeal. I found this on the popular easy to read aboutcoins.com website [B](MS-63)[/B] - Uncirculated, but with contact marks and nicks, slightly impaired luster, overall basically appealing appearance. Strike is average to weak. [B](MS-65)[/B] - Uncirculated with strong luster, very few contact marks, excellent eye appeal. Strike is above average. [B](MS-68)[/B] - Uncirculated with perfect luster, no visible contact marks to the naked eye, exceptional eye appeal. Strike is sharp and attractive. The problem presents itself when each of those grading criteria are not weighted equally. However as you get higher in the MS scale, certain characteristics, again IMO! should stand out. Let me put it this way. A MS66 and up coin is highly lusterous in hand. To shoot a lusterous coin in diffused/muted/matte portrayal is an insult to the coin! lol. Harshly, I feel it misrepresents one of the main attributes that gave the coin it's grade. Shooting diffused also tends to hide nicks and dings. On the other hand, heavily contrasted images shot with direct single/dual lighting will grossly exaggerate nicks and dings and may not be pleasant to look at 20x+ on a monitor. Now with that said, the artistry of what the image is to be used for is going to be/should be considered. How does the owner of the coin want others to see the coin? IMO finding a balance of the main 4 grading criteria. marks, luster, details and eye appeal is the ideal image for MS coins. In the OP's image.... The coin should have "hot spots" IMO the coin is reflective in hand, is it not? Contrast, the image is excellent however it to me again, seems lifeless for a 66, nothing jumps at me on first glance. High grade coins are obvious in hand. Shoot in a way that makes your images of high grade coins attention getting!? Iekgwin - has been posting some gorgeous images lately here on CT. He scales his images down from their original size and there is nothing wrong with that at all! He knows that many will interpret the high resolution image unfairly. errrrrr.. off on a tangent..... resolution is a separate subject. Okay. Lastly. These big Auction house p me off! They have the wherefore all to shoot coins exactly the same way each time. they can white balance. OR do they know this and purposely post high resolution images that are more artsy than technically correct? If I see one more 67RD copper coin that looks to have a modern satin finish on it I am going to scream! :rolleyes: lol I have posted this a couple times - it is also in more detail on the front page in a thread by lehigh ( i miss his posts btw) I think Heritage images look nicer, but mine are much more accurate even though the the contrast (shadowing) is exaggerated from the use of direct lighting. I wanted to capture the luster of this 67RD coin first. Heritage: [IMG]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/f417030c.jpg[/IMG] Mine: [IMG]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z242/papasteeze/Coins/fb7bf3a5.jpg[/IMG] [B]Direct and blunt comments/counterpoints etc (or support) about my above opinions are encouraged![/B][/QUOTE]
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