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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Coinchemistry 2012, post: 2172584, member: 28107&quot;]It is not over until the horse is made into a fine pulp that can be used to make glue... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You are ignoring a significant part of 18 USC 485.&nbsp; To fall within the statute, there are two separate offenses codified by an &quot;or&quot; operator meaning that only one is needed to invoke the statute.&nbsp; One offense is creating a piece in the &quot;resemblance or similitude&quot; to U.S. coinage as discussed throughout this thread.&nbsp; The other involves possessing or uttering, and there are separate statutory elements, like what you mention.&nbsp; Either will invoke the statute if you apply the plain meaning of the statute.&nbsp; Reading the first paragraph/statute as superfluous would violate well established principles of statutory interpretation and it would also ignore 18 USC 487, which suggests that it is more than just uttering or passing the coin that the government is concerned with.&nbsp; After all, it is possible to produce the dies without ever striking the first coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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