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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;NPCoin, post: 132065, member: 5629&quot;]Here&#039;s a big difference, though, and what could constitute fraud.&nbsp; When qeustioned about one&#039;s relationship with two affiliate companies on two distribution teirs in the same industry (manufacturing and distribution), does David Hall deny having any vested interest or ownership in PCGS?&nbsp; In the same, does the owner of Abcon deny any ownership or vested interest in SGS?&nbsp; Abcon claims the coins are grading <b>independantly</b> and by a <b>Third party</b>.&nbsp; Now, in order to meet the claim of <i>independant</i>, the distrubutor cannot have any vested interest or ownership in the manufacturer.&nbsp; This would not constitute fraud so much as it would likely constitute falicy in advertising.&nbsp; The second aspect of advertised claim <b>DOES</b> constitute fraud in many States.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is the aspect of &quot;Third Party&quot;.&nbsp; <b>IF</b> Abcon, in fact, does hold vested interest and/or ownership in SGS, then the claim by the distributor (Abcon) that the manufacturer (SGS) is a <b>Third Party</b> will constitute fraud since the distributor has direct <b>First Party</b> control, interest, and influence.</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;Third Party&quot; is a term that deals with legal identity.&nbsp; Falsely identifying yourself or your entity, or the relationship between two affiliated entities, in order to gain financially is fraud.</p><p><br /></p><p>Find more information in this <a href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?p=132068#post132068" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?p=132068#post132068" rel="nofollow">thread</a>.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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