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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2334692, member: 56859"]Very interesting article! I didn't realize the flow lines developed on the die rather than on the coin but of course that makes perfect sense <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is still much I don't understand about the metallurgy and mechanics of this. Why aren't flow lines seen more often on bronze coins? Bronze is harder, so at first though it seems more likely to "etch" the die as the metal moves but that doesn't seem to be the case. I've seen flow lines on highly debased antoniniani but not on sestertii or Greek bronzes. Or have I just not noticed them? Perhaps the patinas and other surface changes due to aging obscure small die surface features?</p><p><br /></p><p>Looking through my coins I have very few with prominent flow lines. This Roman Republic denarius has some near the devices, nicely highlighted by iridescent toning:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/jc-cupidbigadenarius-reflection-jpg.458530/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><b>Roman Republic, L. Julius L. f. Caesar</b></p><p><b>103 BC</b></p><p>AR denarius, 17mm, 3.9 gm</p><p>Obv: Helmeted head of Mars left; CAESAR; ・J above</p><p>Rev: Venus Genetrix in chariot left, drawn by two Cupids; lyre to left; ・J above</p><p>Ref: Crawford 320/1.</p><p><i>Jencek E-auction 26, lot 58, 14 October 2014. Ex CNG XXXI lot 699, September 1994; ex RBW Collection</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>AncientJoe has some aurei with spectacular but subtle flow lines radiating out from the coins' centers in a pleasingly uniform way.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2334692, member: 56859"]Very interesting article! I didn't realize the flow lines developed on the die rather than on the coin but of course that makes perfect sense :). There is still much I don't understand about the metallurgy and mechanics of this. Why aren't flow lines seen more often on bronze coins? Bronze is harder, so at first though it seems more likely to "etch" the die as the metal moves but that doesn't seem to be the case. I've seen flow lines on highly debased antoniniani but not on sestertii or Greek bronzes. Or have I just not noticed them? Perhaps the patinas and other surface changes due to aging obscure small die surface features? Looking through my coins I have very few with prominent flow lines. This Roman Republic denarius has some near the devices, nicely highlighted by iridescent toning: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/jc-cupidbigadenarius-reflection-jpg.458530/[/IMG] [B]Roman Republic, L. Julius L. f. Caesar 103 BC[/B] AR denarius, 17mm, 3.9 gm Obv: Helmeted head of Mars left; CAESAR; ・J above Rev: Venus Genetrix in chariot left, drawn by two Cupids; lyre to left; ・J above Ref: Crawford 320/1. [I]Jencek E-auction 26, lot 58, 14 October 2014. Ex CNG XXXI lot 699, September 1994; ex RBW Collection [/I] AncientJoe has some aurei with spectacular but subtle flow lines radiating out from the coins' centers in a pleasingly uniform way.[/QUOTE]
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