Just for fun: How do you like your silver?

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How do you like your silver?

  1. Minty fresh!

    2 vote(s)
    5.3%
  2. Bright, clean silver!

    4 vote(s)
    10.5%
  3. Clean, satiny silver!

    2 vote(s)
    5.3%
  4. Satiny, showing some age!

    6 vote(s)
    15.8%
  5. Album toning!

    15 vote(s)
    39.5%
  6. Gunmetal grey!

    4 vote(s)
    10.5%
  7. Paint it black!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. All natural, baby!

    5 vote(s)
    13.2%
  1. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    I like coins that show their age...

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  3. Edessa

    Edessa Well-Known Member

    Something with some color...

    Julia Domna, AD 193-217. AR Denarius (18mm, 3.13g). Laodicea mint. Struck circa AD 196-202. Obv: IVLIA AVGVSTA; Draped bust of Julia Domna facing right with hair waved and coiled at back. Rev: PVDI-CITIA; Pudicitia veiled, seated left, right hand on breast, left at side of chair. Ref: RIC IV 644. Ex Glenn Woods.

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  4. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't usually choose "black" but I have one:

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    Faustina II. 18-17 mm. 3.23 grams.
    Struck under Antoninus Pius 148-152 at Rome.
    FAVSTINAE AVG PII AVG FIL
    VENVS
    Venus standing left holding apple
    RIC 506b. Sear II 4705.
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Tough question! I like all the variations but gravitate towards toning with iridescence. I have silver coins ranging from dipped bright to nearly black.

    Here's what my coins are wearing this season ;) :D

    Dark and uniform toning:

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    THRACE, Byzantion
    340-320 BCE
    AR siglos, 17 mm, 5.0 gm
    Obv: Heifer standing left on dolphin swimming to left
    Rev: Incuse mill-sail pattern
    Ref: SNG BM Black Sea 21

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    PHLIASIA, Phlius
    400-350 BC

    AR obol, 11 mm, 0.84 gm
    Obv: forepart of butting bull left
    Rev: large Φ surrounded by four pellets
    Ref: SNG Copenhagen 8-9
    from Triskeles Auctions, Oct. 2013
    ex BCD Collection, not in previous BCD sales.
    Handwritten round tag and auction clipping indicates that BCD acquired this coin from Sotheby's, 26-27 May 1976, lot 88, for £55 + 10% VAT


    "Cabinet" toning, some with hints of iridescence:

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC, M. Piso M.f. Frugi
    58 BCE (redated from Crawford's 61 BCE by Hersh and Walker, 1984)
    AR denarius, 20 mm, 3.94 gm
    Obv: terminal bust of Mercury right, wearing winged diadem; calix below chin; to left, star above wreath; dotted border
    Rev: M·PISO·M·F / FRVGI above secespita (sacrificial knife) and patera; all within laurel wreath
    Ref: Crawford 418/2b; Sydenham 825; Calpurnia 23
    formerly slabbed, NGC
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-different-frugi.279241/

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    Lucilla
    Empress CE 163-169, wife of Lucius Verus
    AR denarius, 19 mm, 3.25 gm
    Obv: LVCILLA AVGVSTA; draped bust right
    Rev: PVDICITIA; Pudicitia, veiled, standing left, with right hand preparing to draw a veil across her face (or had she just drawn the veil off her face?), left hand at side
    Ref: RIC III 780

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    Septimius Severus
    Rome, CE 206
    AR denarius, 3.41 gm, 20 mm, 12h
    Obv: SEVERVS PIVS AVG, laureate head right
    Rev: LAETITIA TEMPORVM, the spina of the Circus Maximus decorated as a ship facing left, with the turning posts at its prow and stern, a sail mounted on the central obelisk, and the spina's other monuments visible in between; above the ship, four quadrigas racing left; below, seven animals: an ostrich at left and a bear at right; between them a lion and a lioness chasing a wild ass and a panther attacking a bison
    Ref: RIC 274; BMC 343.
    ex Colosseo Collection

    Eye-popping iridescence (I tilt the coin under the camera until the color is maximally displayed-- saturation is not boosted beyond what the camera does without me asking it to):

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    SICILY, Selinos
    Circa 410 BCE
    AR litra, 11mm, 0.76 g, 1h
    Obv: nymph seated left on rock, right hand raised above her head, extending her left hand to touch coiled serpent before her; selinon leaf above
    Rev: man-faced bull standing right; ΣEΛINONTIOΣ above; in exergue, fish right
    Ref: Potamikon, p. 116 figure 152 (this coin); HGC 2, 1229; SNG ANS 711–2 var. (ethnic); SNG Ashmolean 1904–5; SNG Lloyd 1270 var. (same); Basel –; Dewing –; Rizzo pl. XXXIII, 6. Good VF, dark iridescent tone, some porosity. Rare.
    ex MoneyMuseum, Zurich;
    ex Leu 79 (31 October 2000), lot 404;
    ex Athos Moretti collection, #482, unpublished manuscript


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    KINGS OF MACEDON, Philip II. 356-336 BCE
    AR tetradrachm. 24mm, 14.20 gm, 12h
    Pella, 342-336 BCE
    Obv: Laureate head of Zeus right
    Rev: ΦIΛIΠ-ΠOY, youth, holding palm and reins, on horseback right, thunderbolt below, N in exergue
    Ref: Le Rider 222-306. SNG ANS 385-95
    ex Colosseo Collection

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    CORINTHIA, Corinth
    circa 375-300 BCE
    AR stater, 22 mm, 8.55 g, 1h
    Obv: Pegasus flying left; qoppa below
    Rev: helmeted head of Athena left; A-P flanking neck truncation; to right, chimaera rampant left
    Ref: Ravel 1010; Pegasi 428; BCD Corinth 102; HGC 4, 1848
    ex CNG Inventory 828126 (November, 2008)
    ex Gorny & Mosch 170 (13 October 2008), lot 1381
    ex Giessener Münzhandlung 21 (22 March 1982), lot 37


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    Roman Republic
    moneyer L. Julius L. f. Caesar, 103 BC

    AR denarius, 17mm, 3.9 gm
    Obv: Helmeted head of Mars left; CAESAR; ・C (retrograde)
    Rev: Venus Genetrix in chariot left, drawn by two Cupids; lyre to left; ・C (retrograde) above
    Ref: Crawford 320/1
    ex RBW Collection

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    KINGS of PERGAMON, Eumenes I
    263-241 BCE
    AR tetradrachm 29 mm, 16.94 gm
    Obv: head of Philetairos right, wearing laurel wreath
    Rev: ΦIΛETAIPOY; Athena enthroned left, right hand resting on shield set at her feet, gorgon on shield; left elbow resting on small sphinx seated right; transverse spear in background, ivy leaf above knee, monogram on throne, bow to right
    Ref: BMC Greek (Mysia) 31, p.115; SNG France 1606–9
    Formerly slabbed, NGC Ch AU 5/5 3/5, Fine Style
    Ex Dr. Spencer Paterson Collection of Ancient coins, Great Collections 15 Sept 2019

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    CALABRIA, Tarentum
    circa 344-340 BCE per CNG's cataloger; 380-345 BCE per Cote/Ratto;
    AR nomos (didrachm); 21 mm, 7.72 gm, 9h
    Obv: Warrior, holding small shield in left hand, dismounting from horse galloping left; horizontal T below
    Rev: Phalanthos (Taras?), holding helmet in right hand, riding dolphin left; TAPAΣ to upper right, I and waves below
    Ref: Fischer-Bossert group 47, 657 (V252/R509); Vlasto 437 (same dies); HN Italy 876; Côte 152
    Ex Dr. Spencer Paterson Collection of Ancient Coins, Sept 2019
    Slabbed prior to its most recent sale to me and quickly de-slabbed upon arrival; NGC XF, 5/5, 4/5, Fine Style.
    Prior sales: CNG's Coin shop (date unknown); Roma Auction 6 lot 327 (Sept 2013)
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/my-first-tarentum-dolphin-rider.347715/

    Minimal toning:

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    THESSALY, Thessalian League
    48/7 BCE
    Magistrates Nikolaos, Ni..., and Gorgias
    AR stater, 23 mm, 6.3 gm
    Obv: head of Zeus right, wearing oak wreath
    Rev: ΘΕΣΣΑ / ΛΩΝ Athena Itonia striding right, hurling spear with her right hand and extending shield in her left; above spear, ΝΙΚΟ -ΛΑΟΣ; below shield, ΝΙ; to left and right, Γ-ΟΡ/ΓΙ-Α/Σ
    Ref: CNG 78, 14 May 2008, 485 (same dies). Grose 4928 var.
    ex Höher collection
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    While I agree with the 'cabinet toning' ideal, the truth is I generally pick coins for what they are and don't make buying decisions on color or even condition unless the coin is available commonly in varying grades and tones. Examples:

    I have always loved the colorful tone of my Hadrian but I bought it because I wanted the Alexandria from the Travel Series. Had the same grade coin been available that day, in that place but had grey tone I probably would have bought it.
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    Similarly I like my black Caracalla from Caesarea
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    but I don't hold being lighter against my Septimius Severus.
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    I do dislike the bright and shiny ones but that did not stop me from wanting this Republican bright white denarius. I do wish it did not have the black spots.
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    The exception is this siliqua of Constantius II which I bought largely due to the subtle color.
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