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<p>[QUOTE="Fugio1, post: 4112810, member: 89970"][USER=74282]@red_spork[/USER] Sorry for delay in responding. The rest of my non-numismatic life is happening. </p><p><br /></p><p>As you are aware, I saw this coin only minutes after you had pressed the buy button and was shaking trying to find the mouse, only to see that it was sold. I offered you 3 times the purchase price but wisely, you kept the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>This, and any of the other RRC 46/1 varieties are all relatively rare and unique. Obviously stylistically distinct (both obv. and rev.) from the more common RRC 44/5. This example is among the rarest of the sub-varieties. These have been my "White Whales" for some time now. You captured a great example.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>As [USER=74282]@red_spork[/USER] suggested, there are quite a few early varieties that are believed to be about contemporary, including several issues from Sicily and unknown field mints during the 2nd Punic War. RRC 44/5 is generally believed to be among the earliest, but based on hoard evidence, the varieties with semi-incuse legends are thought to be earlier than the examples with legends in relief. This is also borne out by die link studies finding that RRC 44/5 groups 1, 3, and 4 are all die linked with and therefore struck at the same mint. Contrary to Crawford's assertions that the peaked visor coins (RRC 53/2 and similar) were contemporary with the splayed visor issues, there is ample subsequent evidence and scholarship suggesting that the earlier issues consistently have splayed visors.</p><p><br /></p><p>RRC 46/1 and its sub-varieties are not well represented in hoards, but Crawford's placement and the overall general style similarities suggest placement of this issue early, roughly contemporary with RRC 44. I'd love to have any of the varieties. Here are some pics of some of the other variations. Note the obverse styles are very different but with unique similarities of the reverse style, especially the cape, and reverse die links exist between varieties as described here:</p><p><a href="http://stevebrinkman.ancients.info/anonymous/C46_links.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://stevebrinkman.ancients.info/anonymous/C46_links.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://stevebrinkman.ancients.info/anonymous/C46_links.pdf</a></p><p><br /></p><p>46/1 British Museum Example:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1067412[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>46/1(b) Berk Sale Sept, 1999</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1067402[/ATTACH] </p><p>46/1(c) ANS Example </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1067409[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Fugio1, post: 4112810, member: 89970"][USER=74282]@red_spork[/USER] Sorry for delay in responding. The rest of my non-numismatic life is happening. As you are aware, I saw this coin only minutes after you had pressed the buy button and was shaking trying to find the mouse, only to see that it was sold. I offered you 3 times the purchase price but wisely, you kept the coin. This, and any of the other RRC 46/1 varieties are all relatively rare and unique. Obviously stylistically distinct (both obv. and rev.) from the more common RRC 44/5. This example is among the rarest of the sub-varieties. These have been my "White Whales" for some time now. You captured a great example. As [USER=74282]@red_spork[/USER] suggested, there are quite a few early varieties that are believed to be about contemporary, including several issues from Sicily and unknown field mints during the 2nd Punic War. RRC 44/5 is generally believed to be among the earliest, but based on hoard evidence, the varieties with semi-incuse legends are thought to be earlier than the examples with legends in relief. This is also borne out by die link studies finding that RRC 44/5 groups 1, 3, and 4 are all die linked with and therefore struck at the same mint. Contrary to Crawford's assertions that the peaked visor coins (RRC 53/2 and similar) were contemporary with the splayed visor issues, there is ample subsequent evidence and scholarship suggesting that the earlier issues consistently have splayed visors. RRC 46/1 and its sub-varieties are not well represented in hoards, but Crawford's placement and the overall general style similarities suggest placement of this issue early, roughly contemporary with RRC 44. I'd love to have any of the varieties. Here are some pics of some of the other variations. Note the obverse styles are very different but with unique similarities of the reverse style, especially the cape, and reverse die links exist between varieties as described here: [URL]http://stevebrinkman.ancients.info/anonymous/C46_links.pdf[/URL] 46/1 British Museum Example: [ATTACH=full]1067412[/ATTACH] 46/1(b) Berk Sale Sept, 1999 [ATTACH=full]1067402[/ATTACH] 46/1(c) ANS Example [ATTACH=full]1067409[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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