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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2094665, member: 19463"]One thing I look for (right or wrong) is demonstrated by the Alexander or Carthage Martin showed. I ask myself what the coin would look like if the sand were gone but no damage was done to the metal in removing it. The Alexander is obviously a rough coin pitted before the sand was applied. Adding the sand filled in general rough surfaces and a few larger pits like the one near the bottom of the reverse figure. Adding the smoother sand made the coin look better and increased its eye appeal several hundred dollars worth. My OP coin did not benefit from what I can see but that does not make me in any way certain that the sand is original. I suspect that clean it would look a lot like zumbly's coin. Some will prefer my coin because they like sand but others would just as well have a smooth, brown surface. The cash difference would be minimal unless the sand were hiding a fake making it look 'old'. I believe all the coins on this page are real so it is just the dirt we are discussing.</p><p><br /></p><p>John's coin is more of a mystery but it does have some roughness so probably looks better now than it will when cleaned. Losing the dirt in the face pits might even make it look better. I see no way that tooling would change the value of the coin since it is not just a letter away from anything more or less valuable than what we see. I suspect we fail to appreciate how it benefits anyone to turn a $4 coin into a $5 coin but a dollar is a lot of money for a little dirt so a thousand such coins would make a good paycheck for someone. </p><p><br /></p><p>I yield to vlaha and steve as more expert in the odors of makeup and goats. I have minimal experience with goats and none with makeup.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2094665, member: 19463"]One thing I look for (right or wrong) is demonstrated by the Alexander or Carthage Martin showed. I ask myself what the coin would look like if the sand were gone but no damage was done to the metal in removing it. The Alexander is obviously a rough coin pitted before the sand was applied. Adding the sand filled in general rough surfaces and a few larger pits like the one near the bottom of the reverse figure. Adding the smoother sand made the coin look better and increased its eye appeal several hundred dollars worth. My OP coin did not benefit from what I can see but that does not make me in any way certain that the sand is original. I suspect that clean it would look a lot like zumbly's coin. Some will prefer my coin because they like sand but others would just as well have a smooth, brown surface. The cash difference would be minimal unless the sand were hiding a fake making it look 'old'. I believe all the coins on this page are real so it is just the dirt we are discussing. John's coin is more of a mystery but it does have some roughness so probably looks better now than it will when cleaned. Losing the dirt in the face pits might even make it look better. I see no way that tooling would change the value of the coin since it is not just a letter away from anything more or less valuable than what we see. I suspect we fail to appreciate how it benefits anyone to turn a $4 coin into a $5 coin but a dollar is a lot of money for a little dirt so a thousand such coins would make a good paycheck for someone. I yield to vlaha and steve as more expert in the odors of makeup and goats. I have minimal experience with goats and none with makeup.[/QUOTE]
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