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<p>[QUOTE="4to2centBC, post: 2769554, member: 76181"]The more I look at different reverses across a broad range of this type, I am thinking you might have it correct.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Not all the reverses have this same style of cap/die. Looking at Phils example and several others, and then seeing this example (photo below) I believe those dots are symbols of coins. My coin and some others lack the dot(coin?)</p><p><br /></p><p>I believe the cap/die is in fact a punch die that has been garlanded... but the shape of the die was chosen to serve the dual purpose of representing Vulcans cap also. The coin below has bands above and below the garland. Not typical of any Vulcan cap I have seen on coins, statuary or bronzes. Also not typical of the few dome shaped dies in museums (I looked for a few hrs last night and this morning)</p><p><br /></p><p>Therefore I propose that the celator took some artistic license in this case. And I propose that was the intent of the other celators, with differing levels of skill and success in conveying the symbolism. What we see here in the below example is neither cap nor die, yet it must represent something along those lines....so why not have it be both simultaneously? And if this celator saw the item as such, when he was instructed to carve the die, isn't it probable that all the other celators were trying to accomplish the same thing, but with differing results?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/2590288.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>BTW you will note that the dot here (photo above) is far more representative of a coin than most of the other examples out there.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, I would like to hear from some scholarly sources on this.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="4to2centBC, post: 2769554, member: 76181"]The more I look at different reverses across a broad range of this type, I am thinking you might have it correct. Not all the reverses have this same style of cap/die. Looking at Phils example and several others, and then seeing this example (photo below) I believe those dots are symbols of coins. My coin and some others lack the dot(coin?) I believe the cap/die is in fact a punch die that has been garlanded... but the shape of the die was chosen to serve the dual purpose of representing Vulcans cap also. The coin below has bands above and below the garland. Not typical of any Vulcan cap I have seen on coins, statuary or bronzes. Also not typical of the few dome shaped dies in museums (I looked for a few hrs last night and this morning) Therefore I propose that the celator took some artistic license in this case. And I propose that was the intent of the other celators, with differing levels of skill and success in conveying the symbolism. What we see here in the below example is neither cap nor die, yet it must represent something along those lines....so why not have it be both simultaneously? And if this celator saw the item as such, when he was instructed to carve the die, isn't it probable that all the other celators were trying to accomplish the same thing, but with differing results? [IMG]https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/2590288.jpg[/IMG] BTW you will note that the dot here (photo above) is far more representative of a coin than most of the other examples out there. Anyway, I would like to hear from some scholarly sources on this.[/QUOTE]
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