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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;rugrats2001, post: 623309, member: 18266&quot;]Joe, have you read any type of grading guide, or even the explanation of grading in the Red Book? Is there any description in any of these sources describing the lowering of the actual grade because of the unattractiveness of the toning? I have seen MANY slabbed coins grading in the mid-MS grades that looked simply ghastly (to me!) due to unattractive toning, but it didn&#039;t affect the number grade at all. One simple question - do you think the actual grade on an otherwise undamaged coin with honest wear and natural toning can drop in grade from VF to VG simply due to the coin&#039;s color? If so, then I am sorry, but you have been led astray in your numismatic education.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>When you have the advantage of the esteemed group of learned people on this board, where you can pick up an excellent numismatic education (for free!), it is a shame that you choose to go the other way.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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