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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 2913451, member: 85693"]Thank you for writing that Marsyas denarius up, Parthicus. I would've gladly paid $22 for that - worn, yes, but good metal, nice tone, and a couple of banker's marks (I like banker's marks). The rest of you have some very fine examples as well - thanks for sharing. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am very interested in not only the coin, but the legend/myth of Marsyas as well. Recently I picked up this book by Jocelyn Penny Small called <i>Cacus and Marsyas in Etrusco-Roman Legend</i> - a scholarly work, she devotes a lot of space to the Censorinus denarius and the statue in the Forum that it was based on. In the back are excerpts of what must be every single ancient reference to Marsyas. </p><p><br /></p><p>She does make one mistake - she notes the Censorinus Marsyas as wearing a pileus - this is not the case, unless there is some variety I have not found. Crawford notes this error in numismatic references as well. </p><p><br /></p><p>A peculiarity of this issue is the use of control marks - this must be one of the most half-hearted efforts in Roman Republican coinage of using these. Very few dies were used with the control marks, the vast majority of these having no control marks at all. It's as if they started out with them and then said to heck with it. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is Crawford (note the number of dies - the control mark issues are very small compared to the plain type): </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]703913[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>To add to Doug's interesting examples, here is what I believe to be a barbaric imitation of this issue. The photo is from a European eBay auction - I was going to bid on it, but the price lofted beyond my ability to pay (note the retrograde N on the reverse):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]703914[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]703915[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 2913451, member: 85693"]Thank you for writing that Marsyas denarius up, Parthicus. I would've gladly paid $22 for that - worn, yes, but good metal, nice tone, and a couple of banker's marks (I like banker's marks). The rest of you have some very fine examples as well - thanks for sharing. I am very interested in not only the coin, but the legend/myth of Marsyas as well. Recently I picked up this book by Jocelyn Penny Small called [I]Cacus and Marsyas in Etrusco-Roman Legend[/I] - a scholarly work, she devotes a lot of space to the Censorinus denarius and the statue in the Forum that it was based on. In the back are excerpts of what must be every single ancient reference to Marsyas. She does make one mistake - she notes the Censorinus Marsyas as wearing a pileus - this is not the case, unless there is some variety I have not found. Crawford notes this error in numismatic references as well. A peculiarity of this issue is the use of control marks - this must be one of the most half-hearted efforts in Roman Republican coinage of using these. Very few dies were used with the control marks, the vast majority of these having no control marks at all. It's as if they started out with them and then said to heck with it. Here is Crawford (note the number of dies - the control mark issues are very small compared to the plain type): [ATTACH=full]703913[/ATTACH] To add to Doug's interesting examples, here is what I believe to be a barbaric imitation of this issue. The photo is from a European eBay auction - I was going to bid on it, but the price lofted beyond my ability to pay (note the retrograde N on the reverse): [ATTACH=full]703914[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]703915[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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