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<p>[QUOTE="Carthago, post: 2362706, member: 76111"]Yes on the veil. </p><p><br /></p><p>On the issue of it possibly being a fourree, I checked the citation of Alföldi Type IX, 1 (A23/R9). You probably aren't familiar with it, but Andreas Alföldi published a die study of Caesar issues from 44 BC (though there are some coins illustrated outside of 44 BC but it's in German so I can only look at pictures and tables). I was impressed that Alföldi was cited because that really shows some homework. Unfortunately, the citation is incorrect. I don't know which die it is, even if there is a match, because there is 70 obverse dies listed for Type IX and going through them is a chore. </p><p><br /></p><p>Your seller's explanation of the condition issues is very good and may be completely correct. The weight being 3.5g is not really high, however and is inconclusive IMO. He has another coin listed on is site that is a Marc Antony fourree and it is also 3.5g so that weight is middling to a bit light. I have 2 examples of this coin, one with the shield and another with the star and they are 3.98g and 3.85g respectively. </p><p><br /></p><p>The style is really hard for me to tell if it is correct or not because style ranged all over the place and, again, it would take quite some time to go though the die study to see. Even then, many fourrees were made from transfers of real coins so the style can be OK. If I had to make a determination, I think the portrait is a bit odd and the adam's apple in particular is overly exaggerated. The reverse, however, looks fine design wise to my eye.</p><p><br /></p><p>From the picture, I would say it's definitely a fourree. From the seller's explanation, it seems he's done his study on it and found it not a fourree so that would give me pause on my opinion. You can't judge 100% from a picture, and even in hand, forgeries can be deceptive. </p><p><br /></p><p>Either way, neat coin. Don't let it ruin your new coin if it a fourree. Get a discount and keep it! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Carthago, post: 2362706, member: 76111"]Yes on the veil. On the issue of it possibly being a fourree, I checked the citation of Alföldi Type IX, 1 (A23/R9). You probably aren't familiar with it, but Andreas Alföldi published a die study of Caesar issues from 44 BC (though there are some coins illustrated outside of 44 BC but it's in German so I can only look at pictures and tables). I was impressed that Alföldi was cited because that really shows some homework. Unfortunately, the citation is incorrect. I don't know which die it is, even if there is a match, because there is 70 obverse dies listed for Type IX and going through them is a chore. Your seller's explanation of the condition issues is very good and may be completely correct. The weight being 3.5g is not really high, however and is inconclusive IMO. He has another coin listed on is site that is a Marc Antony fourree and it is also 3.5g so that weight is middling to a bit light. I have 2 examples of this coin, one with the shield and another with the star and they are 3.98g and 3.85g respectively. The style is really hard for me to tell if it is correct or not because style ranged all over the place and, again, it would take quite some time to go though the die study to see. Even then, many fourrees were made from transfers of real coins so the style can be OK. If I had to make a determination, I think the portrait is a bit odd and the adam's apple in particular is overly exaggerated. The reverse, however, looks fine design wise to my eye. From the picture, I would say it's definitely a fourree. From the seller's explanation, it seems he's done his study on it and found it not a fourree so that would give me pause on my opinion. You can't judge 100% from a picture, and even in hand, forgeries can be deceptive. Either way, neat coin. Don't let it ruin your new coin if it a fourree. Get a discount and keep it! ;)[/QUOTE]
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