Julia Paula aka Curlie

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dougsmit, May 31, 2016.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The Post Office blessed me today with my newest coin - 8 days from Europe including a Holiday here that prevented delivery yesterday. As is too often the case, I bought it copying someone here on CT. That can get expensive depending on who you are copying. I did not have a coin of Julia Paula, first wife of Elagabalus, but I could live with that. I bought this coin because I liked the artwork on the portrait - particularly the row of banana shaped curls on her forehead. I could have paid more and got a higher grade coin with a more ordinary portrait but this was the girl who spoke to me.
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    RIC 222 lists the type from Rome mint but notes that it also is found from Antioch. Researching the VENVS GENETRIX denarii online only turned up one credited to Antioch (I agreed with that call) but most sellers just parrot Rome without really addressing the matter. I can't say I was very impressed by RIC authors handling the question with a footnote. I would really like to see other Paula denarii that you believe are Eastern.

    I have several other late Severan Eastern denarii of the more common people. They vary a lot in style and fabric making me less than certain that all are from the same mint. That is why I prefer to say 'Eastern' rather than Antioch. I am far from a student of Elagabalus but just see a flavor here that makes me think this might be different. Those who feel learned in this question are asked to comment. Those who have access to images of coins claiming to be Antioch Paula or which match this style are asked to post links. Thanks.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I have seen a few of that reverse type been mentioned as eastern, but they end up looking more Rome.

    This says Antioch but doesn't look like yours:
    https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/sp...s_genetrix_seated_left_vf/654663/Default.aspx

    And CNG has a few:
    http://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=217093
    http://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=257945

    Mine is the usual sitting concordia reverse.
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    Julia Paula (219 - 220 A.D.)
    AR Denarius
    O: IVLIA PAVLA AVG, Draped bust right.
    R: CONCORDIA, Concordia seated left, patera in right, left elbow resting on arm of throne, star in left field.
    Rome
    3.1g
    18.3mm
    RSC 6a , RIC 211
     
  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    As I stated previously, I love your new chick-coin (congrats, Mentor, my coin-friend)

    Ummm, I only have this sweet example from the Rome mints (I hope it's allowed to hangout with your new kid?)

    Julia Paula AR Denarius.jpg
     
  5. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    My only Julia Paula.

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  6. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I got to get me one. All the women in my ancient coins are fictional depictions of goddesses. It's about time I got me a real woman.
     
  7. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Style looks eastern to me too, Doug

    Mine is just as ordinary as other's


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    Julia Paula Denarius Rome mint, AD 220
    IVLIA PAVLA, draped bust right
    CONCORDIA, Concordia seated left, holding patera
    2.97 gr
    Ref : RCV # 7655, Cohen # 6

    Q
     
  8. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I have yet to get one. She is on the list.
     
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  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Well, here's my only Julia Paula---just another RIC 211, Rome mint:
    Julia Paulus.jpg
     
  10. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Like the Banana curls but she ain't got nuttin' on the finger girls. Flapper Girl.
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  11. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks for posting those lovely Julia Paula Denarius, I do not have her....yet.
    John
     
  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I like it a lot too. Cool addition Doug!
     
  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here are my Julia Paula denarii:

    Rome AD 220
    2.8 g 19.0 mm
    Obv: IVLIA PAVLA AVG, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: CONCORDIA, Concordia enthroned left, holding patera; star in l. field.
    RIC 211; Sear 7655; BMC 172; Cohen 6

    Julia Paula 1.jpg

    Rome AD 219
    3.16 g 18.6 mm
    Obv: IVLIA PAVLA AVG, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: CONCORDIA, emperor and empress standing facing each other, clasping hands.
    RIC 214; Sear 7656; BMC 318; Cohen 12

    Julia Paula 2.jpg

    This one has a different hairstyle from Doug's example...

    Rome AD 219
    3.31 g 19.2 mm
    Obv: IVLIA PAVLA AVG, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: VENVS GENETRIX, Venus enthroned l., holding apple and scepter.
    RIC 222; Sear 7658; BMC 177; Cohen 21

    Julia Paula 3.jpg

    Rome AD 219-220
    3.20 g 18.5 mm
    Obv: IVLIA PAVLA AVG, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: VESTA, Vesta standing r., holding Palladium and scepter.
    RIC 224; Sear -- ; RSC 22a; Cohen --

    Julia Paula 4.jpg
     
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