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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 2677231, member: 85693"]I recently obtained a cruddy denarius of Julia Mamaea with some damage that I thought might be interesting. It is has a lot of (very uninteresting) black crud on the reverse, but the obverse has a large chisel cut across Mamaea's face. It looks like she was given one of The Joker's "smiles" from Batman (R.I.P. Heath Ledger). Not a banker's mark, this looks more like one of those test cuts applied to Athenian tetradrachms. And it looks kind of deliberate to me. There is also a pretty deep punchmark in front of her face taking off the tip of her nose. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]597487[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]597489[/ATTACH]</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>[ATTACH=full]597490[/ATTACH] </b></p><p><b>Denarius Julia Mamaea (Mother of Severus Alex.)222-235 A.D. </b>IVLIA MAMAEA AVG, diademed & draped bust right / FELICITAS PVBLICA, Felicitas standing, head left, holding caduceus & resting arm on column. RIC 335; RSC 17; BMC 483</p><p><br /></p><p>I realize it looks like a fourrée, but I am pretty sure the black stuff is on the surface of the coin, not base metal breaking through the silver (any tips for cleaning this off would be appreciated - it is really hard stuff).</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, what got me to thinking was the fact that Julia Mamaea, after she was murdered with her son Severus Alexander, was blamed for bad management, greed, meddling, etc. Therefore, according to Livius.org "The Senate pronounced a damnatio memoriae over Mamaea." Usually this manifested itself in statues and inscriptions, but I know coins were included as well (poor Geta). Ancient Imports.com has a wonderful example for sale, a bronze as (I think) of Mamaea, which they list as a damnatio memoriae.</p><p><br /></p><p>I realize assigning damage to an ancient coin to a specific event is impossible, but I thought the nature of the damage here was compelling. Any thoughts? Any others out there?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 2677231, member: 85693"]I recently obtained a cruddy denarius of Julia Mamaea with some damage that I thought might be interesting. It is has a lot of (very uninteresting) black crud on the reverse, but the obverse has a large chisel cut across Mamaea's face. It looks like she was given one of The Joker's "smiles" from Batman (R.I.P. Heath Ledger). Not a banker's mark, this looks more like one of those test cuts applied to Athenian tetradrachms. And it looks kind of deliberate to me. There is also a pretty deep punchmark in front of her face taking off the tip of her nose. [ATTACH=full]597487[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]597489[/ATTACH] [B] [ATTACH=full]597490[/ATTACH] Denarius Julia Mamaea (Mother of Severus Alex.)222-235 A.D. [/B]IVLIA MAMAEA AVG, diademed & draped bust right / FELICITAS PVBLICA, Felicitas standing, head left, holding caduceus & resting arm on column. RIC 335; RSC 17; BMC 483 I realize it looks like a fourrée, but I am pretty sure the black stuff is on the surface of the coin, not base metal breaking through the silver (any tips for cleaning this off would be appreciated - it is really hard stuff). Anyway, what got me to thinking was the fact that Julia Mamaea, after she was murdered with her son Severus Alexander, was blamed for bad management, greed, meddling, etc. Therefore, according to Livius.org "The Senate pronounced a damnatio memoriae over Mamaea." Usually this manifested itself in statues and inscriptions, but I know coins were included as well (poor Geta). Ancient Imports.com has a wonderful example for sale, a bronze as (I think) of Mamaea, which they list as a damnatio memoriae. I realize assigning damage to an ancient coin to a specific event is impossible, but I thought the nature of the damage here was compelling. Any thoughts? Any others out there?[/QUOTE]
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