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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1857247, member: 19463"]The Syrian Domna is a nice example of how wild things got at the mint during that period. It is unusual enough that masculine reverses got paired with Julia obverses on occassion but there are so many different examples it looks like they were trying to make things complicated for numismatists centuries later. RIC lists a page and a half of variations on the Fortuna reverses for Septimius and we keep finding examples where another die got used with Julia. My theory is that every night the mint secured the obverse and reverse dies separately to make it harder for someone to make coins after hours. Then, every morning they would be repaired with no attention paid to which dies were used together the previous day. It is the only way I can explain the large number of pairings. This theory would suggest that Randy's coin and Martin's were made on the same day. It is a nice find. I doubt the worldwide census of these is just two but I would not be surprised if it is a single digit number. </p><p><br /></p><p>I do not have this one but I'll show my Julia with Fortuna seated. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]311399[/ATTACH] </p><p>My reverse, like Randy's, is a known design but not listed with the exact spelling. In this case FORTVN REDVC is spelled LORTVN REDVC. Someday someone will do a die study of the Eastern Severans but it will be a huge task considering the number of dies and number of spellings, misspellings and oddities. </p><p><br /></p><p>The only similar (or worse) situation I know of is the mess we call the coins of Pescennius Niger. His coins are rare but finding two that used the same dies is not easy. There must have been a lot of coins circulating in the East during the civil wars of 193-195. Were they mostly melted down or are there millions waiting for someone to find them?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1857247, member: 19463"]The Syrian Domna is a nice example of how wild things got at the mint during that period. It is unusual enough that masculine reverses got paired with Julia obverses on occassion but there are so many different examples it looks like they were trying to make things complicated for numismatists centuries later. RIC lists a page and a half of variations on the Fortuna reverses for Septimius and we keep finding examples where another die got used with Julia. My theory is that every night the mint secured the obverse and reverse dies separately to make it harder for someone to make coins after hours. Then, every morning they would be repaired with no attention paid to which dies were used together the previous day. It is the only way I can explain the large number of pairings. This theory would suggest that Randy's coin and Martin's were made on the same day. It is a nice find. I doubt the worldwide census of these is just two but I would not be surprised if it is a single digit number. I do not have this one but I'll show my Julia with Fortuna seated. [ATTACH=full]311399[/ATTACH] My reverse, like Randy's, is a known design but not listed with the exact spelling. In this case FORTVN REDVC is spelled LORTVN REDVC. Someday someone will do a die study of the Eastern Severans but it will be a huge task considering the number of dies and number of spellings, misspellings and oddities. The only similar (or worse) situation I know of is the mess we call the coins of Pescennius Niger. His coins are rare but finding two that used the same dies is not easy. There must have been a lot of coins circulating in the East during the civil wars of 193-195. Were they mostly melted down or are there millions waiting for someone to find them?[/QUOTE]
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