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<p>[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 6599353, member: 83845"]Excellent post and observations regarding the symbolic use of Hercules and Jove in the first and second tetrarchy [USER=89970]@Fugio1[/USER] . It was a very enjoyable read.</p><p><br /></p><p>I really enjoy the follii of the tetrarchy but in order to show a Jove reverse from the early emperors I have to show a pre-reform Antoninianus. This is one of my favorite coins of Diocletian because it was struck in the first few months of his reign before he raised Maximian to co-emperor and started down the path that would lead to the tetrarchy.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1266094[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Empire</font></p><p><font size="3">Diocletian, AD 284-350</font></p><p><font size="3">AE Antoninianus, Rome mint, 6th officina, struck AD 285-286</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 24.73 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 3.55 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: IMP DIOCLETIANVS AVG. Diocletian radiate bust right.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: IOVI CONSER-VAT AVG. Jupiter standing holding thunder bolt and scepter. XXIZ below.</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: RIC V:II 161</font></p><p><font size="3"><i>Ex Dr. Walter Neussel Collection; Auktion GM 92, Lot 365 (Nov. 1998); Dr. Busseo Peus Nachf. Auktion 420, Lot 6051 (Nov. 2017)</i></font></p><p><br /></p><p>My example from the mint at Siscia is of the common Genius type but it is still one of my favorite Constantius I examples.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1266098[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Empire</font></p><p><font size="3">Constantius I (as Caesar, AD 293-305).</font></p><p><font size="3">AE Follis, Siscia mint, 2nd officina, struck AD 295</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 28 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 9.79</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES Laureate head of Constantius to right.</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI /B /*SIS Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia. </font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: RIC 90a</font></p><p><br /></p><p>In order to show Hercules and Jove reverse types in the follis denomination I have to go past the first and second tetrarchy to the time when the tetrarchy system was falling apart.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is one of my favorite coins. I like how your example in the OP shows Hercules holding the apples in from of his body almost like the scene happened just before or after the one below. For my write up see <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-greek-artistic-masterpiece-on-roman-coins.344521/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-greek-artistic-masterpiece-on-roman-coins.344521/">here</a>.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1266096[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Empire</font></p><p><font size="3">Maximinus Daia (AD 308 - 313)</font></p><p><font size="3">AE Follis, Antioch mint, struck ca. AD 313</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 20.5 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 3.9 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG; Laureate bust right</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: HERCVLI VICTORI; Hercules standing right, leaning on lions skin and club</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: RIC VI 170b, Scarce</font></p><p><font size="3"><i>Ex FSR, lot 370 (Jul. 2018)</i></font></p><p><br /></p><p>These next two examples show Jupiter (Jove) as the preserver of both Constantine I and Licinius I. I am afraid Jove dropped the ball on one of these promises... My write up on the type <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/jupiter-the-preserver.310491/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/jupiter-the-preserver.310491/">here</a>.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1266097[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Empire</font></p><p><font size="3">Constantine I, AD 306-337</font></p><p><font size="3">AE Follis, Cyzicus mint, 6th officina, struck ca. 313-315</font></p><p><font size="3">Dia.: 21 mm</font></p><p><font size="3">Wt.: 3.8 g</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: IMP C FL VAL CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; Laureate head right</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: IOVI CONS-ERVATORI; Jupiter standing left, holding globe surmounted by Victory in right hand, holding scepter in left hand; eagle holding wreath in beak at left; S // SMK</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: RIC VII 3</font></p><p><font size="3">Ex JAZ Numismatics</font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1266095[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Empire</font></p><p><font size="3">Licinius I</font></p><p><font size="3">AE Follis, Thessalonica mint, struck ca. AD 312-313</font></p><p><font size="3">Obv.: IMP LIC LICINIVS P F AVG; Laureate bust left</font></p><p><font size="3">Rev.: IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGGNN; Jupiter standing left, holding globe surmounted by Victory in right hand, holding scepter in left hand; eagle holding wreath in beak at left; / TS A</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref.: RIC VI 59</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtisimo, post: 6599353, member: 83845"]Excellent post and observations regarding the symbolic use of Hercules and Jove in the first and second tetrarchy [USER=89970]@Fugio1[/USER] . It was a very enjoyable read. I really enjoy the follii of the tetrarchy but in order to show a Jove reverse from the early emperors I have to show a pre-reform Antoninianus. This is one of my favorite coins of Diocletian because it was struck in the first few months of his reign before he raised Maximian to co-emperor and started down the path that would lead to the tetrarchy. [ATTACH=full]1266094[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Empire Diocletian, AD 284-350 AE Antoninianus, Rome mint, 6th officina, struck AD 285-286 Dia.: 24.73 mm Wt.: 3.55 g Obv.: IMP DIOCLETIANVS AVG. Diocletian radiate bust right. Rev.: IOVI CONSER-VAT AVG. Jupiter standing holding thunder bolt and scepter. XXIZ below. Ref.: RIC V:II 161 [I]Ex Dr. Walter Neussel Collection; Auktion GM 92, Lot 365 (Nov. 1998); Dr. Busseo Peus Nachf. Auktion 420, Lot 6051 (Nov. 2017)[/I][/SIZE] My example from the mint at Siscia is of the common Genius type but it is still one of my favorite Constantius I examples. [ATTACH=full]1266098[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Empire Constantius I (as Caesar, AD 293-305). AE Follis, Siscia mint, 2nd officina, struck AD 295 Dia.: 28 mm Wt.: 9.79 Obv.: CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES Laureate head of Constantius to right. Rev.: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI /B /*SIS Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia. Ref.: RIC 90a[/SIZE] In order to show Hercules and Jove reverse types in the follis denomination I have to go past the first and second tetrarchy to the time when the tetrarchy system was falling apart. This is one of my favorite coins. I like how your example in the OP shows Hercules holding the apples in from of his body almost like the scene happened just before or after the one below. For my write up see [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-greek-artistic-masterpiece-on-roman-coins.344521/']here[/URL]. [ATTACH=full]1266096[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Empire Maximinus Daia (AD 308 - 313) AE Follis, Antioch mint, struck ca. AD 313 Dia.: 20.5 mm Wt.: 3.9 g Obv.: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG; Laureate bust right Rev.: HERCVLI VICTORI; Hercules standing right, leaning on lions skin and club Ref.: RIC VI 170b, Scarce [I]Ex FSR, lot 370 (Jul. 2018)[/I][/SIZE] These next two examples show Jupiter (Jove) as the preserver of both Constantine I and Licinius I. I am afraid Jove dropped the ball on one of these promises... My write up on the type [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/jupiter-the-preserver.310491/']here[/URL]. [ATTACH=full]1266097[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Empire Constantine I, AD 306-337 AE Follis, Cyzicus mint, 6th officina, struck ca. 313-315 Dia.: 21 mm Wt.: 3.8 g Obv.: IMP C FL VAL CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; Laureate head right Rev.: IOVI CONS-ERVATORI; Jupiter standing left, holding globe surmounted by Victory in right hand, holding scepter in left hand; eagle holding wreath in beak at left; S // SMK Ref.: RIC VII 3 Ex JAZ Numismatics[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1266095[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Empire Licinius I AE Follis, Thessalonica mint, struck ca. AD 312-313 Obv.: IMP LIC LICINIVS P F AVG; Laureate bust left Rev.: IOVI CONSERVATORI AVGGNN; Jupiter standing left, holding globe surmounted by Victory in right hand, holding scepter in left hand; eagle holding wreath in beak at left; / TS A Ref.: RIC VI 59[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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