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<p>[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1057959, member: 19065"]Mac, I made no such assumption but you keep trying to say I did. It's not my point.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've tried to contain this discussion to the subject of the OP without getting into your personal opinions, but you refuse to look at facts and stay on topic. Instead you again circled back to your own personal biases, supporting stereotypes that you use to label others and place some sort of blame on them for whatever it is you feel slighted by. That is what I read from your first comment, it has nothing to do with the coin, but rather your personal opinion and complaint about something the coin represents.</p><p><br /></p><p>Like I said, this is turning into your personal platform for judging others and this isn't the place for it. I gave you facts that show that the man (Lennon) abided by the laws of the land in obtaining his residency and was committed to the ideals of people like those U.S. citizens and other immigrants that seek personal freedom and liberty in this country. He wasn't trying to be an American, he was trying to help bring about global peace and found a welcoming spirit in the US to go about it. I further explained his anti-ANY-nation stance proclaimed in his song Imagine was a way for envisioning peace. If you could create peace by being anti-anything, then do it! If you have to be anti-American or anti-hamburger eatting, or anti-baseball watching/playing to get peace, then do it! That was the message. With no nations dividing people between borders and erroneously perceived differences, there might not be nation vs. nation conflict and war. He personally believed war to be immoral. He called for peace and morality, sought truth and justice and spoke out to expose corruption that did anything to perpetuate war and prevent peace.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you were a victim of the governments war machine that is regretable, but not entirely your fault either. I'm sure you served the country well and did what you were told within your best reasoning at the time, but your stance has become ensconced in bitterness toward the symbolic figures of an era that were blamed by the status quo for undermining just about everything that was going wrong then, when it has been proven to be quite the opposite.</p><p><br /></p><p>The U.S. and Nixon failed to bar Lennon his residency to the U.S. but Nixon failed the US greatly and was forced to resign for his actions.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1057959, member: 19065"]Mac, I made no such assumption but you keep trying to say I did. It's not my point. I've tried to contain this discussion to the subject of the OP without getting into your personal opinions, but you refuse to look at facts and stay on topic. Instead you again circled back to your own personal biases, supporting stereotypes that you use to label others and place some sort of blame on them for whatever it is you feel slighted by. That is what I read from your first comment, it has nothing to do with the coin, but rather your personal opinion and complaint about something the coin represents. Like I said, this is turning into your personal platform for judging others and this isn't the place for it. I gave you facts that show that the man (Lennon) abided by the laws of the land in obtaining his residency and was committed to the ideals of people like those U.S. citizens and other immigrants that seek personal freedom and liberty in this country. He wasn't trying to be an American, he was trying to help bring about global peace and found a welcoming spirit in the US to go about it. I further explained his anti-ANY-nation stance proclaimed in his song Imagine was a way for envisioning peace. If you could create peace by being anti-anything, then do it! If you have to be anti-American or anti-hamburger eatting, or anti-baseball watching/playing to get peace, then do it! That was the message. With no nations dividing people between borders and erroneously perceived differences, there might not be nation vs. nation conflict and war. He personally believed war to be immoral. He called for peace and morality, sought truth and justice and spoke out to expose corruption that did anything to perpetuate war and prevent peace. If you were a victim of the governments war machine that is regretable, but not entirely your fault either. I'm sure you served the country well and did what you were told within your best reasoning at the time, but your stance has become ensconced in bitterness toward the symbolic figures of an era that were blamed by the status quo for undermining just about everything that was going wrong then, when it has been proven to be quite the opposite. The U.S. and Nixon failed to bar Lennon his residency to the U.S. but Nixon failed the US greatly and was forced to resign for his actions.[/QUOTE]
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