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<p>[QUOTE="JerseyJoe, post: 1009677, member: 27531"]I have begun a collection of early New Jersey coinage. One of the earliest of our non-imported/recycled New Jersey coins are the New Jersey Coppers or Copper Maris. The problem is, that proper sources for these coins inflate the prices astronomically, and so I have taken to regularly scanning ebay for available coins. I have found ebay has become a rather Wild West for consumers as of late, where the phrase: 'caviat emptor', is more than just an old Latin expression; it should be ebay's un-official motto.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are many genuine Jersey Coppers available on ebay, but also many fakes. Some non-genuinely historic coins are clearly identified as reproductions, but others are offered as the real deal.</p><p><br /></p><p>Please have a look at the following coin both obverse and reverse, and tell me if this isn't an obvious fake. Could a genuine 200+ years-old coin possibly be lacking any patina and seem like newly minted copper, or could this be a genuine coin which has been 'cleaned'?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]97760.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]97761.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I have compared this coin with various samples from it's mint date, and have found none which match this particular design. Coins of this vintage are often miss-struck, so I am not particularly suspicious of that. But even the denticles seem bogus. Jersey Coppers seem a favourite of coin counterfeiters as of late, which makes finding a good deal, a treacherous undertaking. But I am never so greedy as to leap before I look.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your thoughts?</p><p><br /></p><p>Joe[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="JerseyJoe, post: 1009677, member: 27531"]I have begun a collection of early New Jersey coinage. One of the earliest of our non-imported/recycled New Jersey coins are the New Jersey Coppers or Copper Maris. The problem is, that proper sources for these coins inflate the prices astronomically, and so I have taken to regularly scanning ebay for available coins. I have found ebay has become a rather Wild West for consumers as of late, where the phrase: 'caviat emptor', is more than just an old Latin expression; it should be ebay's un-official motto. There are many genuine Jersey Coppers available on ebay, but also many fakes. Some non-genuinely historic coins are clearly identified as reproductions, but others are offered as the real deal. Please have a look at the following coin both obverse and reverse, and tell me if this isn't an obvious fake. Could a genuine 200+ years-old coin possibly be lacking any patina and seem like newly minted copper, or could this be a genuine coin which has been 'cleaned'? [ATTACH]97760.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]97761.vB[/ATTACH] I have compared this coin with various samples from it's mint date, and have found none which match this particular design. Coins of this vintage are often miss-struck, so I am not particularly suspicious of that. But even the denticles seem bogus. Jersey Coppers seem a favourite of coin counterfeiters as of late, which makes finding a good deal, a treacherous undertaking. But I am never so greedy as to leap before I look. Your thoughts? Joe[/QUOTE]
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