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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2207229, member: 19463&quot;]I spent a few weeks very interested in these but fell out due to a few things that told me we were not meant for each other.&nbsp; The OP coin is one that sent me packing.&nbsp; I&#039;m not saying it is not GH&nbsp; 582 (I bought the book) but I&#039;m not able to convince myself it is either.&nbsp; Coins NEVER have five clear strikes of the marks but that is OK since the first two or three are on so many coins you really don&#039;t care whether you see them well or not.&nbsp; The last two are critical to the ID and 90% of the coins I see are less than clear on those marks.&nbsp; For me to collect these, I&#039;d need to find a source of pick-outs where I could select coins I thought I was good enough to ID.&nbsp; I have seen a few guys selling these in bulk and 90% of what they had were the same two or three types.&nbsp; It is like Roman where 90% of the Julio Claudian denarii you see are Tribute Pennies.&nbsp; GH 582 is one of seven types with four matching marks of which 582 is the one marked very common but this specimen is not convincing me that it is any of them.&nbsp; If someone could tell me how to turn the coin to see what part of mark 5, I might have an &#039;ah-ha&#039; moment and be able to agree with the ID rather than just accept it.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think it is any of the other six either so that&#039;s why I dropped out.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I do find many interesting things about these coins.&nbsp; One is how closely they match early Roman denarii in weight.&nbsp; I guess that is how much silver seemed right to base your system on at that time.&nbsp; Coincidence? I don&#039;t think so. </p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ll share two of mine.&nbsp; These are as common as they get.&nbsp; They are the same coin (GH 574, I think) listed as abundant (more common than very common).&nbsp; The big deal fifth mark is the bull with something under his mouth (upper right and center left on these two) which is at least visible on both.&nbsp; </p><p>[ATTACH=full]430780[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]430781[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>GH even has several pages showing &#039;Unclear Coins&#039;.&nbsp; I agree with his ID on these.&nbsp; They are really unclear.&nbsp; I really need to study these a lot harder than I have to date and the Gupta Hardaker book is beautiful and should be what I need to learn but I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m ready to take on the intense study required.&nbsp; Call me lazy. </p><p><br /></p><p>Suggestion:&nbsp; Buy coins that allow YOU to see five separate marks until you get better at this than I am.&nbsp; There will be time later to get into the tough ones and rarities from other periods and I don&#039;t even want to talk about overstrikes or countermarked issues.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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