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<p>[QUOTE="TJC, post: 2905532, member: 45502"]Great coin show report and coins! Thanks for doing the write up. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have been collecting colonials for a few years and have recognized the kindred spirt that both ancient and colonial collectors share. Truly "modern" coinage does not even begin until the advent of the steam press and even then the learning curve was long. I find the transition from human powered minting pre-industrial era to steam powered industrial era coinage to be fascinating. Pre and early US federal coinage tells the story well. Another great pre-industry to industry story is the Soho Mint in England. How coins are minted today is far far cry from how colonials were minted. 1700's - Mid 1800's coinage is cool stuff; here are couple of links:</p><p><a href="https://coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/" rel="nofollow">https://coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/</a></p><p><a href="http://www.sohomint.info" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.sohomint.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.sohomint.info</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Your New Jersey copper is popular type (Nice example BTW). According to Q David Bowers in his Colonial and Early American Coins the NOVA CAESAREA (NEW CAESAR) legend "was first used in the original 1664 indenture specifying the boundaries of New Jersey, written by Charles II. The agrarian design is adapted from the state seal designed by Pierre du Simitiere (BTW this guy was one of the earliest numismatist in US history and likely had the largest ancient coin collection on American soil during the American revolution. Fascinating guy that starved himself to death rather than give up his collection)</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Whitman-Encyclopedia-Colonial-Early-American/dp/0794825419/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510495567&sr=1-1&keywords=Q+david+Bowers+colonial" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.amazon.com/Whitman-Encyclopedia-Colonial-Early-American/dp/0794825419/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510495567&sr=1-1&keywords=Q+david+Bowers+colonial" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Whitman-Encyclopedia-Colonial-Early-American/dp/0794825419/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510495567&sr=1-1&keywords=Q david Bowers colonial</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-That-Forgotten-Simitiere-Numismatics/dp/0943161088/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510494754&sr=8-1&keywords=Pierre+du+Simitiere" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-That-Forgotten-Simitiere-Numismatics/dp/0943161088/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510494754&sr=8-1&keywords=Pierre+du+Simitiere" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-That-Forgotten-Simitiere-Numismatics/dp/0943161088/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510494754&sr=8-1&keywords=Pierre du Simitiere</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a an example of the coin "George Washington objected to having his bust on". The portrait was stolen from the above mentioned du Simitiere (did I mention that he was also an artist; oh and he tutored Jefferson's daughter). This coin was minted in England to be sold to the US. Had Washington given the go ahead this is what USA's first penny (cent) would have likely looked like:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]700851[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]700852[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TJC, post: 2905532, member: 45502"]Great coin show report and coins! Thanks for doing the write up. I have been collecting colonials for a few years and have recognized the kindred spirt that both ancient and colonial collectors share. Truly "modern" coinage does not even begin until the advent of the steam press and even then the learning curve was long. I find the transition from human powered minting pre-industrial era to steam powered industrial era coinage to be fascinating. Pre and early US federal coinage tells the story well. Another great pre-industry to industry story is the Soho Mint in England. How coins are minted today is far far cry from how colonials were minted. 1700's - Mid 1800's coinage is cool stuff; here are couple of links: [url]https://coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/[/url] [url]http://www.sohomint.info[/url] Your New Jersey copper is popular type (Nice example BTW). According to Q David Bowers in his Colonial and Early American Coins the NOVA CAESAREA (NEW CAESAR) legend "was first used in the original 1664 indenture specifying the boundaries of New Jersey, written by Charles II. The agrarian design is adapted from the state seal designed by Pierre du Simitiere (BTW this guy was one of the earliest numismatist in US history and likely had the largest ancient coin collection on American soil during the American revolution. Fascinating guy that starved himself to death rather than give up his collection) [URL='https://www.amazon.com/Whitman-Encyclopedia-Colonial-Early-American/dp/0794825419/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510495567&sr=1-1&keywords=Q+david+Bowers+colonial']https://www.amazon.com/Whitman-Encyclopedia-Colonial-Early-American/dp/0794825419/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1510495567&sr=1-1&keywords=Q david Bowers colonial[/URL] [URL='https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-That-Forgotten-Simitiere-Numismatics/dp/0943161088/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510494754&sr=8-1&keywords=Pierre+du+Simitiere']https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-That-Forgotten-Simitiere-Numismatics/dp/0943161088/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510494754&sr=8-1&keywords=Pierre du Simitiere[/URL] Here is a an example of the coin "George Washington objected to having his bust on". The portrait was stolen from the above mentioned du Simitiere (did I mention that he was also an artist; oh and he tutored Jefferson's daughter). This coin was minted in England to be sold to the US. Had Washington given the go ahead this is what USA's first penny (cent) would have likely looked like: [ATTACH=full]700851[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]700852[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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