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<p>[QUOTE="curtislclay, post: 4530729, member: 89514"]Dear Roman Collector,</p><p><br /></p><p>Interesting observations, but I'm afraid you are mistranslating parts of Trajan's legend.</p><p><br /></p><p>SPQR on the reverse is the subject of the legend, so is in the nominative case, as we can see from Marsyas Mike's coin above, where it is written out SENATVS POPVLVSQUE ROMANVS.</p><p><br /></p><p>The dative case of Trajan's name and titles is not the dative of agent, but the standard dative of dedication or indirect object, yielding this translation: "The Senate and the Roman People (dedicate this coin to, or express their veneration for) Trajan," with his various titles.</p><p><br /></p><p>That the dative case of Trajan's name and titles is dependent on the subject SPQR at the end of the legend is evident from Trajan's earlier coins of 112, on which Trajan's name reverts to the nominative case whenever SPQR is omitted from the reverse legend, as for example with the type DIVVS PATER TRAIAN.</p><p><br /></p><p>Best regards,</p><p><br /></p><p>Curtis Clay[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="curtislclay, post: 4530729, member: 89514"]Dear Roman Collector, Interesting observations, but I'm afraid you are mistranslating parts of Trajan's legend. SPQR on the reverse is the subject of the legend, so is in the nominative case, as we can see from Marsyas Mike's coin above, where it is written out SENATVS POPVLVSQUE ROMANVS. The dative case of Trajan's name and titles is not the dative of agent, but the standard dative of dedication or indirect object, yielding this translation: "The Senate and the Roman People (dedicate this coin to, or express their veneration for) Trajan," with his various titles. That the dative case of Trajan's name and titles is dependent on the subject SPQR at the end of the legend is evident from Trajan's earlier coins of 112, on which Trajan's name reverts to the nominative case whenever SPQR is omitted from the reverse legend, as for example with the type DIVVS PATER TRAIAN. Best regards, Curtis Clay[/QUOTE]
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