It's about time we learn more about Chinese coins.

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Insider, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. Insider

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    Will someone translate the characters on the coin below please. I'll have more.




    It is a Kirin 1905 Dollar

    Top 4: Made during blank blank blank

    Left: Snake Right: Wood = 1905

    Bottom 6: Blank #2 Blank #10 Ku Ping (silver).

    Large Characters within the beaded center:
    12OC = Kuang
    3OC = ?
    6OC = Hsu
    9Oc = ?

    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2017
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  3. sakata

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    Link produces an error.
     
  4. Kentucky

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    Link...what link?
     
  5. sakata

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    There was a link before he edited it out. That's why there is a multi-line space after the first line.
     
  6. cpm9ball

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    See! Even Chinese coins are counterfeit!

    Chris:)
     
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  8. Insider

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    :facepalm: I put this up yesterday and forgot to push submit.

    In another forum someone replied:

    Top 4 characters: Made Jilin Province Mint
    Bottom line from left to right: Silver "7" cent "2" points.

    Still want to make sure of the characters for "cent" and "points." Originally I thought the "7" character was a "10."
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2017
  9. Kentucky

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    Senior moment
     
  10. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Note that it's not 7 cents 2 points. It's 7 mace 2 candareens. This is actually an ancient weight, where 1 mace is around 3.78g. Therefore the technical weight of such coin should be around 27.2g.

    That said, many of these coins are underweight in particular Kirin (Jilin) silver coins are notorious for this. They were widely unaccepted with merchants as they believe they were getting ripped off with underweight silver coins and therefore the survival rate of such coins are quite low.
     
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  11. paddyman98

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    So I was correct in my post #6
     
  12. Insider

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    Note that it's not 7 cents 2 points. It's 7 mace 2 candareens.

    So the first symbol is "mace" and the last is "Candareens?"
     
  13. paddyman98

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  14. Insider

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    Thanks. I'm not having any difficulty with dating or attributing these coins, I wish to learn what each symbol means. This is from CU Forum. I posted this discussion over there also.

    @Insider2 said:

    @coffeyce Thanks for the help, I've been looking thru "Chinese Currency" by Fredrik Schjoth and Kann's book. These plus some descriptions of the characters on some coins in auctions on the net have helped me distinguish:
    Made
    Province
    Gold
    Silver
    One dollar
    Tael
    Coin
    Year
    Money

    Next, I'll work on the characters for each province (so-far three of them). As soon as I figure out how to upload separate characters and confirm their correctness I'll start sharing what I'm learning.
    It is time consuming to teach oneself when an advanced dealer/collector of Chinese coins could give all of us a one hour presentation that would be almost all we need. [​IMG]
    I'm going to write to the president of FUN and suggest he find someone to do this (with a handout) at their summer show. I may even become educated enough with fifty more hours of study plus some help from members here. [​IMG]
     
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