It’s not a vice job... but what?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by playguitar, Dec 27, 2020.

  1. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    We all anticipate the outcome of this arrangement with great interest.
     
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  3. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    You guys read a lot into me that might not be as true as you think! I will send it this week when I get down off this mountain and into Boise you all will see my brilliance like a brand new dime!
     
  4. JeffC

    JeffC Never buying coin tubes with pull-off caps again. Supporter

    Hi. Thanks for this full image. Looking at your photos, I must admit I was stumped a bit. But I have something to contribute if I may.

    First, let me offer up the following quick sketch:

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    It's a bit crude, I know. LOL. But I think you'll agree with it. It shows a coin surface with an incused area and a raised area. For the purpose of this illustration, the light source comes from the right. I think you'll agree that the parts shown in orange will be brighter, on account of the light shining on it.

    Now let's look at your photo of the full reverse where you are certain that the 1975 is raised and not incused. Images can play tricks on our eyes, and that's why it's important to note the direction of lighting.

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    The spaces between the columns of the Memorial are (of course) incused. See where the bright spots are? In your photo, the light source is on the right.

    Now look at the numbers in 1975, especially the 5. From the edges that are brighter (and given the direction of lighting), the numbers MUST be incused.

    That's what I see and wish to share with you. Thanks.
     
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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    You can save your money @Seattlite86
    We all know this one will never make it to the grading room.
    Here is one that is freshly squeezed.
    And oh my gosh, if you take the photo with the lights at the right angle you can make the incused letters look like they are raised off of the coin.
    Just look at liberty. Too bad the rest of the details say this is a vice job.
    Ridiculous
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    PS to all the other members I will throw this into the fireplace when I start it up next so that any future guitar playing trolls never find it.
     
  6. JeffC

    JeffC Never buying coin tubes with pull-off caps again. Supporter

    OMG. The reverse "LIBE" look raised! Hahahaha. Lighting anomalies!
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

    Boise, ID A 55 year-old man was robbed at gunpoint today while taking a package to the post office. According to this reporter from the Idaho Statesman, the man was mailing a coin to ANACS for authentication. It was a rare Mint error worth $50,000. Unfortunately, he could not provide a description of the perpetrator because he approached him from behind and placed a gun to the back of his head. The gunman told him to close his eyes and not look around for 30 seconds, otherwise, he would blow his brains out. The victim was so scared that he peed his pants.
     
  8. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Be sure to share with us the submission form once you submit, so we know you've done it. Don't forget to block out personal info.

    You can go to www.coinzip.com to find dealers who can help you with the submission.

    Looking forward to it. Regardless of the outcome, I hope you will return here and share the results. This thread will be a learning point for a lot of people.
     
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  9. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    I still go by that information, especially when I have to follow it also,. I do not feel it was a common small vise, but still a stable pressure. If I were going to make these, I would use a Harbor freight unit. They are neat to press one hard thing into another hard thing. Grind your self a "coin die " and press on :)dead:)

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  10. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Looking forward to the results.
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 Let me burst your bubble! Supporter

    When I saw that @desertgem made a post to comment I was hoping that this thread would be locked and no further comments were going to be allowed! :hilarious:
     
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  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Oh, I hope not! I want the OP to let us know when he was robbed and the coin stolen.
     
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  13. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    When I make my vise cents I use a steel 1943
    First impression is always the best
     
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  14. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    Reminder: @playguitar, be sure to submit your coin at the first available opportunity. This reminder will repeat until the OP provides proof of sending his coin to the grading service of his choosing.
     
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  15. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    @playguitar I believe you believe what you are seeing and reporting, but I would ask you to do a couple of things. Run your fingernail or a toothpick over the number to actually determine it is raised and not incused. I don't see that you've done that in any or your posts. Two: In the total photo of the coin, it is obvious the coin is out-of-round, thus it couldn't have happen during the minting process. I hope you'll be honorable enough to post the TPG results for us to see.
     
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  16. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I have a 12 ton hydraulic press in my workshop and it will do the job just fine.
     
  17. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    But it can be done with a set of numerical punches. I have a set of these also. If someone is clever enough they can cut out the date and place it anywhere they want and then squeeze it. Maybe you have seen jewelry cut outs.
     
  18. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Actually he could do it a bit cheaper. I'm sure if he sent the $5.00 fee plus return shipping John Wexler would take a look at it and give his pro opinion.
     
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  19. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    That's exactly what I was talking about & mine is from Harbor Freight.
     
  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I'll be simple as I did read every comment. It's damaged. Anything you do will cost you money. It's only worth face value.
     
  21. Inspector43

    Inspector43 72 Year Collector Supporter

    It boggles my mind that this mint error has a date of 1978 and 1975. The elves at the mint were very diligent and took great care to make this error. However, if it was intentional then it is not an error.
     
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