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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 987831, member: 57463"]<b>Wrong on both counts. </b> My rant is about how people post things from inside their heads without checking the facts.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Trade Dollars are dollars.</b> Now, if there is a better citation, I bow to that, but there is my source.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, <b>US Code, Title 18: Crimes; </b>CHAPTER 17—COINS AND CURRENCY (§§ 331—337) and especially CHAPTER 25—COUNTERFEITING AND FORGERY (§§ 470—514) </p><p>(<a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_25.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_25.html" rel="nofollow">See here</a>) make it absolutely, positively, unquestionably clear in no uncertain terms that it is always against the law to make, design, create, implement, copy, manufacture, trade, buy or sell or transport any or all of the tools, means, modes, methods, operations, and procedures for counterfeiting any form of money, coupon, coin, banknotes, tokens or other kinds of money or money objects or money substitutes of the United States or any of its States or of any foreign nation.</p><p><br /></p><p>How do they get away with it? Volume: too many people doing it and not enough enforcement. The IRS just hired 10,000 new agents. You might have heard about the problems on the Mexican border. Can't have 150 million people watching the other 150 million. </p><p><br /></p><p>About ten years ago, at the insistence of the US Government, China beheaded three men who were counterfeiting Federal Reserve Notes. But no one cares if some nerdy coin geeks get ripped off. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you want to, you can find these sellers, track them down, swear out a complaint and get an officer of a court to arrest one. Then go on to the next one. And the next one. And so on.</p><p><br /></p><p>You could join the ANA and ICTA and help lobby Congress for stronger enforcement. But that means spending money like BP and Goldman Sachs to get BP and Goldman Sachs results. No one cares of some coin geeks get ripped off. ... not unless there's tens of thousands of dollars flowing into each of the accounts of hundreds of Congressional representatives....</p><p><br /></p><p>(And yes, boycotting the Mint already has been tried before with little success.)</p><p><br /></p><p>So, get the facts straight, but realize that it is hopeless.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 987831, member: 57463"][B]Wrong on both counts. [/B] My rant is about how people post things from inside their heads without checking the facts. [B]Trade Dollars are dollars.[/B] Now, if there is a better citation, I bow to that, but there is my source. Also, [B]US Code, Title 18: Crimes; [/B]CHAPTER 17—COINS AND CURRENCY (§§ 331—337) and especially CHAPTER 25—COUNTERFEITING AND FORGERY (§§ 470—514) ([URL="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_25.html"]See here[/URL]) make it absolutely, positively, unquestionably clear in no uncertain terms that it is always against the law to make, design, create, implement, copy, manufacture, trade, buy or sell or transport any or all of the tools, means, modes, methods, operations, and procedures for counterfeiting any form of money, coupon, coin, banknotes, tokens or other kinds of money or money objects or money substitutes of the United States or any of its States or of any foreign nation. How do they get away with it? Volume: too many people doing it and not enough enforcement. The IRS just hired 10,000 new agents. You might have heard about the problems on the Mexican border. Can't have 150 million people watching the other 150 million. About ten years ago, at the insistence of the US Government, China beheaded three men who were counterfeiting Federal Reserve Notes. But no one cares if some nerdy coin geeks get ripped off. If you want to, you can find these sellers, track them down, swear out a complaint and get an officer of a court to arrest one. Then go on to the next one. And the next one. And so on. You could join the ANA and ICTA and help lobby Congress for stronger enforcement. But that means spending money like BP and Goldman Sachs to get BP and Goldman Sachs results. No one cares of some coin geeks get ripped off. ... not unless there's tens of thousands of dollars flowing into each of the accounts of hundreds of Congressional representatives.... (And yes, boycotting the Mint already has been tried before with little success.) So, get the facts straight, but realize that it is hopeless. Sorry.[/QUOTE]
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