Islamic Calendar conversion

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  1. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Thinking about going back in time with my collection. As many of you
    know, my collection starts at 1499 A.D. and goes backwards. I've have
    dates going back to 1465 A.D. complete. From there it is hit or miss,
    mostly miss, thru 1374 A.D. I would like to fill in the missing dates and
    my best opportunities are with Islamic coins. I need to find a calendar
    converter for the project. The one I found says for example
    1464 A.D. = 868 AH. Dealers that sell these coins also list said coin
    1464 A.D. = 869 AH. Other collectors say go with the one with the greatest
    amount of months for a year. I plan on going back as far as I can using
    different empires and kingdoms. I read somewhere that I will hit a
    road block in the 400's A.D. Any help on this project will greatly be
    appreciated. Thank you in advance. Tibor
     
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  3. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    The Islamic year is lunar and therefore about 11 days shorter than the Gregorian solar year. This means that there is never a one-to-one correspondence. Islamic Hijri years are typically expressed by a dual Gregorian date. For convenience and by convention, Hijri years beginning before 1 July can be expressed as the earlier Gregorian year and those beginning 1 July or later as the latter Gregorian year (e.g. AH 868 = AD 1463/4 or 1464). I recommend flexibility of interpretation in assembling your collection. You may find this converter helpful: https://www.islamicity.org/hijri-gregorian-converter/
     
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  4. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    @dltsrq Thank you for your response and advice. I am going
    to start adding these interesting coins as my budget allows.
    once again THANK YOU!!!
     
  5. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Well-Known Member

    Not to nitpick, but there are years where a one to one correspondence is possible. 1976 is one of them. It starts in January and ends in December. Therefore coins dated AH1396 equate to a 1976 mint year. Ah1362/1943 is the same.
     
  6. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    Perhaps you missed my point. The lunar Hijri year is substantially shorter than the Gregorian solar year so in no case can Hijri and Gregorian years correspond perfectly. Yes, AH 1396 falls entirely within AD 1976. Therefore, any coin dated AH 1396 was struck with certainty during the course of AD 1976 and no dual conversion date is required. However, a coin dated AD 1976 may have been struck in the last few days of AH 1395, on any day in AH 1396, or in the first days of AH 1397. One-to-one correspondence is a two-way street.
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2020
  7. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Well-Known Member

    No, I got your point. The OP was AH-Gregorian and not G-AH. I was clarifying that it could happen.
     
  8. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks everyone for the info. Off to the adventure.
     
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