ISIS is destroying ancient artifacts

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  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    WHY? I'm sorry, but I just don't get the mentality. Even the insane can appreciate antiquities and their beauty.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    So sad. How can the world combat such insanity?
     
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  6. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Yup, they've been doing that for a while now... :shifty:
     
  7. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    This makes me sick.
     
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  8. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Often, putting in place your ideology requires destroying the previous ones. These people are fanatics, bent on the total destruction of existing civilization.
     
  9. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    image.jpg This pic has been trending twitter for a while. I really started to cry when I saw this pic
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I know their logic, but again I ask why? Are they so ignorant? Do they have no sense of history? I can ask questions which I fear have no answers. It looks like the images I've seen of the night the Nazi's burned all the books with which they didn't agree. So sad.
     
  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Fear of the Other.
     
  12. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Sadly, EVERY civilization has done this at some point, including us. The Puritans who first came here called the indigenous Indians savages and destroyed their artifacts also, including totems using their religion as an excuse for imposing their own on them. So too the Spanish, French and English. It's awfully hard to be tolerant when one sees this happening. Before we can help others we must first help ourselves.
     
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  13. Pere

    Pere Active Member

    In this case they are destroying relics of ancient Assyria... Mesopotamian polytheism has not really been a player in the Abrahamic fighting...
     
  14. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Conan the Barbarian must be rolling in his grave.
     
  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    You're looking for an erudite explanation of thuggery? It doesn't matter whose descendents they are. They are a gang. They are no different than the gangs we have in our inner cities. They are motivated by fear and attempt to rule by fear.
     
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  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Collectors of ancient coins and all lovers of history and archaeology have one thing in common: we revel in ideas, whether we agree with them or not. We are the quintessential multiculturalists. That's why we find it incomprehensible that someone should destroy their own cultural heritage.

    But Tommy is right - they are not so different from us. I don't say that to condone their actions in any way, but if we merely look upon their actions with condemnation, we've missed an important lesson for ourselves.

    We don't even need to go back in time to see the paranoia in our own thinking. The NSA is spying on everyone and the police have run amok. We are a paranoid species, driven by fear of the Other. Our survival depends on transcending that paranoia, but I'm not at all certain we will succeed. In fact, I doubt it.
     
  17. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    The reports about what those IS "fighters" have done or are doing to those objects are saddening. (And what they do in other regards is even worse.) Problem is, what if soldiers invade, in the name of freedom, a country and steal lots of ancient objects, or if the locals do the same thing in such a phase? They will do it for the money, sure, so they are unlikely to destroy what they stole, but the objects are still not public any more. Another question is, who gets to decide whether cultural heritage can be "exported"? The Moroccan government, just as an example, is unlike to OK such measures, Morocco is politically quite stable. Now of course the latter may change, but is it really legitimate to say that - because the situation may become troublesome one day - exports should now be allowed?

    Christian
     
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  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I live in Michigan, When I was a teenager, me and some of my friends went to the DIA ( Detroit Institute Of Arts ) to see king Tutankhamun, or king tut, along some other mummies, now, after Egypt wanted all of the artifacts back from around the world, we all miss out on the history.... And we all know what happen in the up-rise of Egypt...
     
  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Maybe I am over-simplifying, but to me what is happening in the Middle East today is pure evil including the destruction of artifacts. But, then again, I am a simple man.
     
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  20. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Not much different then Egypt, then destroyed lots of their artifacts there too....
     
  21. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Its the youth gone wild ..
     
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