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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2146959, member: 19463&quot;]Rarely do we all agree so much but the fact remains that dealers can not bring themselves to call their treasurers less than VF.&nbsp; See these:</p><p><a href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1178661" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1178661" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1178661</a></p><p>The coin has full outlines and no details on the top surfaces so it gets VF with a bonus modifier???&nbsp; Certainly anyone would be happy to have this coin but would they pay $300,000 for a VG-Fine?</p><p>I gets worse:</p><p><a href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=278958" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=278958" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=278958</a></p><p>This one is just a VF which means it does not have solid outlines.&nbsp; The extensive text goes on about how it is hard to access actual wear on an issue so poorly struck but still they can&#039;t see the coin as less than VF.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>We&#039;ll hear that the Poros dekadrachms are a special case because there are only ten of them known but there are many ancients of no particular note that have fewer than that (a few actually known by one specimen).&nbsp; Perhaps that means that the best coin of a type should be called Mint State???&nbsp; I think not. I am quite happy to have a few coins in my collection that are VG or below but people who will spend $300,000 for a coin seem to require a dealer to put lipstick on that pig.&nbsp; Unfortunately it is getting worse as we now see the slabbers adding grades on top of the list for ancients that previously topped out at EF.&nbsp; I&#039;m sure there are collectors who will have no slabbed coin below AU.&nbsp; Many of us like pretty coins but being only Fine is not a mortal sin especially when the coin is &#039;as good as it gets&#039;.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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