Is this toning AT or NT?

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You gotz some seriously good taste in material, there ol' Doug. I luvs me some half crowns, color or no.

 

To the question asked. I think there is environmental damage and the toning of this piece would be natural. Again only my opinion. Too bad it looks like someone skipped it across a rough surface one time.

 

Two words fer ya' - drool cup.

 

MC,

I'm completely serious about what I'm going to say next. Everyone goes through "a process" when learning how to grade like a TPGS grader or learning to predict a coin's grade from a TPGS. Phase one is "my coins look that good" combined with disappointing grades received. I did that phase in the 1990's. At some point, without seemingly achieving "accuracy", phase two begins. You become TOO tough on every coin and think no coins will ever get a top grade, yet some do. This phase can be a lot of fun. Eventually the third phase begins. This is marked by taking grading courses - formal sanctioned courses, and learning what TPGSs are looking for and what they're not. You examine coins in lot viewing rooms with amazing grades (my favorite spiritual) and you see what no picture can - the difference between nice coins and superior coins. It doesn't always show in pictures.

 

Not entirely sure on that one. They have been adding more varieties they will do, but it may depend on the individual one.

 

MC,

Actually, you have more influence regarding Wexler attributions being offered by the major TPGS's than you know. Ask them to do it! Ask politely, point out that Wexler is a highly thought of source for die varieties, try to get a buddy or two to do likewise, and bing bam boom, before you know it, if they don't do Wexlers now, believe me, they soon will. It's a revenue source for them - their chief language.

I'll make you THIS promise: I have a really nice relationship with NGC people who come to ANA shows. Maybe somebody ELSE can handle PCGS. I will ask about doing Wexlers at NGC, and suggest it's a good idea. I'm not certain my asking at PCGS would help the cause. I'm generally pretty hard on them.

I actually suggested to my son that he join PCGS, because I may have burned that bridge already. He wasn't interested. He doesn't care for their physical slab design either. Oaks, acorns, falling. You know.

 

Thank you I will have to ask. I do know several other people who may be willing to ask as well.

I don't want to send it to ANACS for the same reason your son doesn't want to join PCGS. I don't really like their slabs. Nothing wrong with the grading just the slabs.

 

Agreed. That quarter-round top just grinds my gears. I just have a preference for the elegant simplicity and congruence of the exterior of the NGC slab. Also, when in boxes, the old ones are a snap to pick out. I'm taking a few re-slabs with me to Denver.

 

The best grading experience.

 

Well, I am posting these few coins, that were just removed by me from a flat pack PF 1962. This is in response to @Skyman Post early in this thread, that flat packs don't tone by themselves. I am not in the position to, nor do I have the knowledge, to say anything different. Then @GDJMSP posted his half dollar that had a look like the half shown below, I am having an extremely hard time capturing the nickel and the dime (not photo'd), the dime only shows a slight hue of red/orange, and the cent has color but only slight.(not photo'd).
This Half actually has a bit of red in it but couldn't bring that out. The quarter and nickel carry a wild tone to themselves but because of how reflective they are my colors are off, but not by much. The nickel is what made be by the set, wish I could get a better photo.
For 20$ out the door, I couldn't pass it up.

 

That's EXACTLY why I remain such a "hard case" skeptic of "coin porn" photography, Doug. If a see a rollicking color on a picture, and I can't pick up that coin and see that color in about a fifth of a second (0.2 sec.), I consider it a fraudulent photo. If I have to jigger a coin for 10 seconds to see a brief flash of what a photo showed, I'm already lunging for the photographer's throat. I want coin photos that are done by the "just slap it down and push the stupid button" theory. It's a truer story in a world ruled by fairy tales.

 

Whoa! Whoever wrote THAT (Skyman?) needs to get around more. What about my 1961 set in which the quarter and half were blast white, while the nickel was yellow-green and the dime looked like it was covered in dried blood?

 

And I give you this solemn promise: as long as my account here is active, and I'm still drawing breath, no one will ever be left scratching their head wondering, "Gee, I wonder what Bellman's opinion of THIS is." Whatever part of the human brain controls the "my opinion doesn't matter" impulse, it's EXACTLY the region of the brain my 2009 hemmhorage killed. It's gone. When I do die, some poor schmuck of a medical student will have my brain to poke at. It's in my will that I go to a med school as a student's cadaver.

 

I am the same way. While I have a decent camera set-up, all I do is lay the coin down flat and shoot. I do have moveable lighting and if I can't get the toning to show up moving the lights slighly then the toning isn't worth mentioning.

I also don't like it when people "juice", i.e. mess with the colors in editing using anything more than a white balance check., their photos. If you need more than a white balance adjustment to show what the coin looks like in hand, then retake the photos using different background color or different lighting.

 

Although I do believe that I can take closer to "in hand photos" of the said coins, the tone changes are still true to the photos posted. either way agreed terrible to post photos that you know aren't right, LOL. This very well could be the subject of heat, not the mint packaging. The set was offered at a pawn shop, along with a 60,61, and 63.

I don't do any post photo processing, the photos are what they are.

 

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