Is this Sacagawea dollar normal?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by riff, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    i have never seen one in circulation, so i dont know. i know the one on the right looks like every other one i have seen, but the left almost looks like its missing a plating or something. do they fade like this when circulated? IMG_2127[1].jpg IMG_2130[1].jpg IMG_2128[1].jpg IMG_2129[1].jpg
     
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  3. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Put the one on the right in your pocket for a few weeks and it will looks like the one on the left. They dont hold luster very well and wear down rather fast.
     
  4. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    ok. thanks.
     
  5. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Aren't these an alloy? I don't think they're plated with anything.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well it's bit more than plating as most folks think of plating (regarding thickness), but yes, they are plated. The coins have a pure copper core plated with a manganese brass alloy.
     
  7. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    I KNOW. THATS WHY I SAID IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THAT. sry. caps lock. i wasnt sure if it was normal wear, maybe an improper alloy mix(like a woody cent). i just dont come across them and i got it at a toll booth in fla, so it had been bugging me.
     
  8. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Gotcha, thanks for the info. I probably could have looked that up, but I don't have my redbook handy here at work.
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The Mint had problems with the first year of issue (2000) because they were turning a nasty, ugly, puke-greenish-brown.

    Chris
     
  10. Shreadvector

    Shreadvector Member

    They are "clad" and not "plated".

    The center 50% of the thickness is pure copper and the outer layers, which are each 25% of the thickness, are a Manganese Brass alloy.

    Nothing has been plated onto anything.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plating


     
  11. brg5658

    brg5658 Supporter! Supporter

    It's not plating at all, it's clad. A completely different process.
     
  12. Rassi

    Rassi #GoCubs #FlyTheW #WeAreGood

    In my experience, most of all the "golden dollars" (presidential & Sac's) look HORRIBLE after exposure to even minor circulation... I can't imagine how bad they'd look if they got the amount of circulation that other denominations get....
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Funny, I thought I said that.
     
  14. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You did?

    Chris
     
  15. Shreadvector

    Shreadvector Member

    They look horrible if handled (exposed to oils and acid from fingers) and then allowed to sit and *not* circulate. If they do circulate, the surfaces are buffed up by the coins scraping against each other and they then have a nicer golden patina. Yes, it is darker than a shiny uncirculated coin, but it is not as icky as a handled coin that has sat around to 'rot'.


    Silver coins could turn black when they sat around, but when circulated they scraped themselves clean.


    The coke machine does not care how shiny my coins are, nor do the parking meters, candy machine, self check stand, etc.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What do you think the first part of that sentence meant ?
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Well I would think the first part of the statement would mean ( or seems to say) that it has an unusually heavy plating.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The guy I was responding to seemed to think the coins were made out of a solid alloy. The first part of my comment plainly says that most people would not consider it plating because of thickness. I was telling him the coins are not a solid alloy, but rather made in layers - which it is.

    No I did not use the correct terminology, that being clad, but I answered his question. And yes, clad is nothing more than heavy plating.
     
  19. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

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