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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;panzerman, post: 3262813, member: 77704&quot;]In my &quot;former&quot; hobby collecting bugs.....these things happened a lot. That was one of the reasons that I decided to sell the collection, and devote that $ to coins.</p><p>Within the insectnet community, they had same forums setup as with cointalk, it was amazing to see all the scams involved in the rare butterfly/moth trade. Even in the Drout Natural History Auctions, really rare butterflies would sell for insane prices in AI quality. AI is just like FDC in insects=its perfect dorsal and ventral side/ no repairs=tooling. Then there also was fake data<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I hate to bring this up, but now you see why its safer to purchase auction coins that are TPG. They point out tooling/ smoothing/ cleaning/ whizzing/ dipping/ hairlines/ clipping.</p><p>They also list planchet defects/ adjustments marks/ die cracks....which should be OK/ since coins were struck that way/ no tampering after....</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a papilio lampsacus male from Java now extinct. This one in my coll. was perfect AI. I had a guy from US that wanted it, so I said 5KUS. He passed and got one from Paris auction for 3500 euros. When he got the thing, turned out it had been heavily repaired, so he ended up buying mine for 7K last year. Lesson learned/ price went up too<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie50" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> [ATTACH=full]858658[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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