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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3262522, member: 19463"]I see part of this problem traceable to influence of people with a lot of money coming to the hobby with previous experience in other art forms like oil paintings and sculptures. An oil painting with a tear and layers of grime is considered 'conserved' when it is rebacked, repaired and repainted to fill in blank places. Sculpture are glued back together, sometimes like it was originally and sometimes not, to make something that can stand as ancient beauty rather than rubble. This is more than acceptable to most and some now want to paint statues with colors that may represent the original look of the work. In coins, we have always expected untouched originals. Tooling is definitely out and we argue amongst ourselves where acceptable cleaning stops and smoothing (evil) or tooling (major evil) begin. I can see how someone who has been accustomed to buying these other art formats in the $10,000 to $10,000,000 bracket might look at this tooled coin as normal and beautiful when applying the standards of their past experience. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am not saying that fine art of any format should not be repaired when damaged. We keep hearing of damage by vandals to great works.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_of_art" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_of_art" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_of_art</a></p><p>The difference here is that we coin minded people do not accept the idea of taking a $1000 coin and 'improving' it with $5000 worth of skilled labor to produce a $10,000 masterpiece. A painting by Rembrandt with a giant slash across the face would be accepted as 'healed' given this repair. Many of us have had surgery leaving scars that do not prevent us from being considered human beings. The fact that it was done would be praised as a miracle and the restoration artist/doctor would be thanked for such fine work. Most of us here would be happy to see those responsible for tooling coins locked up for the rest of their lives with a restraining order that they never again be within a hundred feet of a coin. I applaud the seller of this coin for proper labeling. I doubt that the next sale of the item will be so well handled.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3262522, member: 19463"]I see part of this problem traceable to influence of people with a lot of money coming to the hobby with previous experience in other art forms like oil paintings and sculptures. An oil painting with a tear and layers of grime is considered 'conserved' when it is rebacked, repaired and repainted to fill in blank places. Sculpture are glued back together, sometimes like it was originally and sometimes not, to make something that can stand as ancient beauty rather than rubble. This is more than acceptable to most and some now want to paint statues with colors that may represent the original look of the work. In coins, we have always expected untouched originals. Tooling is definitely out and we argue amongst ourselves where acceptable cleaning stops and smoothing (evil) or tooling (major evil) begin. I can see how someone who has been accustomed to buying these other art formats in the $10,000 to $10,000,000 bracket might look at this tooled coin as normal and beautiful when applying the standards of their past experience. I am not saying that fine art of any format should not be repaired when damaged. We keep hearing of damage by vandals to great works. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_of_art[/url] The difference here is that we coin minded people do not accept the idea of taking a $1000 coin and 'improving' it with $5000 worth of skilled labor to produce a $10,000 masterpiece. A painting by Rembrandt with a giant slash across the face would be accepted as 'healed' given this repair. Many of us have had surgery leaving scars that do not prevent us from being considered human beings. The fact that it was done would be praised as a miracle and the restoration artist/doctor would be thanked for such fine work. Most of us here would be happy to see those responsible for tooling coins locked up for the rest of their lives with a restraining order that they never again be within a hundred feet of a coin. I applaud the seller of this coin for proper labeling. I doubt that the next sale of the item will be so well handled.[/QUOTE]
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