Is This Real ????? Pls Read

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by DUI4U, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    Yes, but take a closer look at the listing. It says "Certification: U.S. Mint.

    I'm not entirely sure what "certification" is to be honest, but I'm sure the Mint didn't certify any such animal. Unless it's from the future and the date has been changed from 2108 to 2008... and even then, that would make it a fake! ;)
     
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  3. Oldman

    Oldman New Member

    I think the coins as ugly as the guy on it. I vote no for the coin, auction and the man. Just IMHO.
     
  4. Silver Striker

    Silver Striker Senior Member

    I don't believe I'll get a reply as I suspect the auction will get the ax!

    Anyway, sent the seller this....

    Dear vfpartners,

    What is this medal made of? Aluminum? Nickel? What alloys?

    Can you provide substantial proof that this was made at the U.S. Mint. I cannot find these on the U.S. Mint website.

    Are both sides identical? If not can you provide a photo of the other side?

    What is the size and weight of the item?


    Waiting & Watching! :)
     
  5. traderjoe

    traderjoe Junior Member

    Now I see that. Thanks for pointing it out. Yes, listing with "Certification: U.S. Mint." is wrong as we all know that it was not.
    I hope to see what he says about it to Silver Striker :computer:
     
  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Franklin Mint has not struck coins for other countries, including Liberia, since 1985. Most Liberian coins are struck by the Pobjoy Mint now I believe.

    I never pay any attention to the junk they put in that "description" box because it is almost always meaningless. As in this case , if you look at all the description info this "coin" is certified by the US Mint as a proof uncirculated silver round. In his written description he never specificly identifies the country this "coin" is for, doesn't mention the composition, gives no size, weight or denomination. And he does not show a picture of the reverse. (as an unrelated question, if he is trying to imply that it is for the US, why does it only have 8 stars? :) )
     
  7. jmc7983

    jmc7983 Senior Member

  8. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Yes, but wait until you see one struck on this type of planchet.
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  9. HelloNewman

    HelloNewman Member

  10. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Presidential Gold...

    :D :goof: :D :goof: :D
     
  11. dready

    dready Coin Hoarder

  12. craton

    craton New Member

    Is it real? Yeah, REALly stupid! :)
     
  13. Silver Striker

    Silver Striker Senior Member

    Follow up:

    2 days and NO response from seller.
     
  14. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but by my math, I get $75 a piece for these? Seriously?

    For $1 I may buy one. Be an interesting conversation piece, whether or not Obama actually wins.

    But $75, forget it. And I have no need or desire for 20 of the things.

    He seriously believe someone will pay $1500 for 20 of those?! Nobody's that stupid, are they? At least nobody who could afford that much...
     
  15. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    There are hundreds of mints in the world, government run and private. The words "the mint" could mean any of them. And even if you take "the mint" to be specifically referring to the US Mint, he still only said they look like they came from there, not that they actually did. Deceptive? Arguably... but still not false advertising, technically.

    More of a problem though is the description box, where for certification he put in "U.S. Mint." The US Mint does not certify any coins, not even their own. Not sure if it can be argued that he's passing off as US Mint issue based on that though, that's a bit of a grey area, it could just be a mistake.

    But he claims the thing is proof... certaintly not by the pictures... I don't see the stunning "deep mirrors" he's talking about, unless it's just that bad of a picture... but the field is no more reflective than the devices. I'm going to go ahead and call that a blatant lie.

    I love the "decide for yourself how much this is worth." OK, $0. (Well if it's genuinely silver, silver melt... but he doesn't state how much silver they contain.) That's less than the opening bid though lol...

    P.S. Is it just me, or does that portrait not even look that much like Obama? I wouldn't have even known that's who it was supposed to be if his name wasn't on it.
     
  16. spypondac

    spypondac Member

    Under specifications he states:
    "Certification - U.S.Mint
     
  17. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Yep, and as I pointed out, the U.S. Mint does not certify any coins, not even the ones they mint themselves. That spot in the specification box is supposed to be filled by the name of a TPG if it's a certified coin. If he's claiming it's certified by the US Mint, he's lying, mistaken, or delusional; take your pick.

    P.S. I sent him a purely innocent, non-accusatory question, about what the silver content per piece is. If it's much less than about 2 ounces I'd have to wonder at the $75 per coin price tag... more than 100% premium over melt would seem pretty excessive.
     
  18. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    "the mint" and "the Mint" are two different things. "the mint" refers to any mint whereas "the Mint" (that's "Mint" with a capital "M") denotes the US Mint (when used in the United States or when discussing US coins).

    Similarly "I live in the white house" and "I live in the White House" have entirely different meanings.
     
  19. HelloNewman

    HelloNewman Member

    Similarly "I live in the white house" and "I live in the White House" have entirely different meanings.[/quote]

    It's official. I vote "Hobo for President!"
     
  20. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    Where would a hobo President live? In a box on the front lawn of the White House? ;)
     
  21. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    What’s sad is there was or still is a really really old woman living in a "box" in Lafayette Park, across the street from the White House, protesting something ( I can't remember what). All she wants is a few minutes to speak her mind but our president(s) is/are too “busy” to walk across the yard and talk with her so she can go home. Government is seriously out of sync with the common person.

    Ribbit,
    Toad :smile

    Ps: This isn’t a political statement. I know there's a forum for that kind of discussion.
     
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