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<p>[QUOTE="The_Cave_Troll, post: 63263, member: 1674"]MOen-yours looks genuine. Only 4 obverse dies were used to make the 09SVDB's so there is a very limited number of ways that the S can look (in fact the "S" was punced into the 4 dies with the same shaped "S". Moen's mintmark also has a small die chip in the upper loop, which while not conclusive by itself is a positive identifier that the MM is genuine. The other things are that the general shape of the MM is correct. It should be (and is) very rectangular. Finally there is a large dip in the upper end of the "S" immediately to the left of the serif. As near as I can tell it is genuine.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, as for JMH2283's coin, I believe it to be an altered coin. The top loop of the MM is too small and the bottom loop is much too round and the lower serif should extend down to the level of the bottom of the lower loop and it doesn't. I don't know whether the MM was added (and "glued" on) or if it was created from the metal on the coin itself.</p><p><br /></p><p>One question to ALWAYS ask when buying a raw 09SVDB (or 14D cent, 16D dime, 94P Morgan, 93S Morgan, or any other key date) is "Why isn't this coin in a slab?" The answer almost invariably is, "Because it is unslabbable." <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> If it is unslabbable, do you <i>really</i> want to own it?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>P.S. JMH-is your coin dealer a Lincoln expert? I'm suprised that he missed such an obviously fake mintmark. hmmm, if you can return it that is what I'd recommend, otherwise offer it to your dealer.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="The_Cave_Troll, post: 63263, member: 1674"]MOen-yours looks genuine. Only 4 obverse dies were used to make the 09SVDB's so there is a very limited number of ways that the S can look (in fact the "S" was punced into the 4 dies with the same shaped "S". Moen's mintmark also has a small die chip in the upper loop, which while not conclusive by itself is a positive identifier that the MM is genuine. The other things are that the general shape of the MM is correct. It should be (and is) very rectangular. Finally there is a large dip in the upper end of the "S" immediately to the left of the serif. As near as I can tell it is genuine. Now, as for JMH2283's coin, I believe it to be an altered coin. The top loop of the MM is too small and the bottom loop is much too round and the lower serif should extend down to the level of the bottom of the lower loop and it doesn't. I don't know whether the MM was added (and "glued" on) or if it was created from the metal on the coin itself. One question to ALWAYS ask when buying a raw 09SVDB (or 14D cent, 16D dime, 94P Morgan, 93S Morgan, or any other key date) is "Why isn't this coin in a slab?" The answer almost invariably is, "Because it is unslabbable." :eek: If it is unslabbable, do you [i]really[/i] want to own it? P.S. JMH-is your coin dealer a Lincoln expert? I'm suprised that he missed such an obviously fake mintmark. hmmm, if you can return it that is what I'd recommend, otherwise offer it to your dealer.[/QUOTE]
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